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Old 12-11-2012, 08:59 AM  
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2013 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread

Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner
Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play
A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise.

Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk.

At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor.

Burning questions updates below.

Burning Questions for 2013:

1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation?

Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory.

2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door?
Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster.

3) Does Hosmer bounce back?
Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far.
4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012?
Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go.
5) Who regresses?
Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years.
6) Who plays 2B?
Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it.
7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level?
Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha
8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014?
Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014.
9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse?
Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before.
10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers?
Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it?

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Old 12-14-2012, 08:45 PM   #436
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Old 12-14-2012, 08:46 PM   #437
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Are we talking about the same Bourjos that had a .291 obp last year?
His only fully year of playing time was '11. Thus, this is, far and away, the more likely projection.

Landing him would be a coup.
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Old 12-14-2012, 10:07 PM   #439
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Oh, go to hell Detroit. Our bullpen is better, and if our position players evolve, who knows.
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So Detroit had something like a 125M payroll or something. They can afford to sign Prince Fielder and Annibal Sanchez in successive years. Why? Where is the money coming from? Detroit is a big market? How are they affording these payrolls? They will be at 140M before you know it.
They are owned by an ultra-rich deranged multi-billionaire who doesn't care about losing money.

No one actually lives in that rapidly-declining hellhole of a city.
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Old 12-15-2012, 03:21 AM   #441
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law of averages says Frenchy wont have the abortion of a year he had last season. Lets just hope 2011 Hosmer returns and Salvy continues to evolve.
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law of averages says Frenchy wont have the abortion of a year he had last season. Lets just hope 2011 Hosmer returns and Salvy continues to evolve.
From your keyboard to God's ears. We really need for that to be true because he will be our RFer.
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What about him? We've signed 3 FA pitchers this offseason and we're over budget. Do you really expect us to sign another?

edit... Sheilds/Davis weren't FA's. Still....
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What about him? We've signed 3 FA pitchers this offseason and we're over budget. Do you really expect us to sign another?

edit... Sheilds wasn't a FA. Still....
If we are going all in this year ... then go ALL IN.


We can do like the Marlins and trade them in a couple of years ... win or lose.


At least we would have a winning year every so often.
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If we are going all in this year ... then go ALL IN.


We can do like the Marlins and trade them in a couple of years ... win or lose.


At least we would have a winning year every so often.
Yeah good luck with that. We've spent money, improved the starting staff, gone over budget (from what I can tell) and our core players are signed long term. If you guys think we're spending more this year you're on crack. This is our team. We'll win or lose with it.
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what about Lohse?
Lohse is old, he doesn't strike anybody out, and he's a St. Louis/Dave Duncan success story.

Those guys TYPICALLY don't do so well once they leave St. Louis. He wants $75 million.

It's not simply a matter of saying "Hell No" to Kyle Lohse... it's a matter of saying "HELL NO" while sprinting in the opposite direction and firing over your shoulder as you do.

If Lohse signs with an AL team, he's going to get a colossal bust, IMO.
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As for KC going "all-in"... I don't think there's anything wrong with sitting pat at this point. They've brought in four new starting candidates.

If they're in the thick of it around the trade deadline and have an opportunity to make a deal to improve the team, I think we'll see them take a shot at that.
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