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2013 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread

Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner
Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play
A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise.

Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk.

At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor.

Burning questions updates below.

Burning Questions for 2013:

1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation?

Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory.

2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door?
Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster.

3) Does Hosmer bounce back?
Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far.
4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012?
Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go.
5) Who regresses?
Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years.
6) Who plays 2B?
Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it.
7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level?
Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha
8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014?
Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014.
9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse?
Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before.
10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers?
Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it?

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Old 05-29-2013, 11:07 AM   #4846
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If they fire Moore after this season, the next GM will have some nice tools to build with.
Hopefully they look into the Texas front office for the next GM.
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Old 05-29-2013, 11:08 AM   #4847
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Out of the 2 Zack Greinke trades which side did better?

Trade 1 - Alcides Escobar, Lorenzo Cain, Jake Odorizzi , Jeremy Jeffress For Zack Greinke and Yuniesky Betancourt

Trade 2- Jean Segura , John Hellweg , Ariel Pena For 3 months of Zack Greinke

IMO Trade 2 by far what say you.
Jean Segura > Escobar, Cain and 1/2 of Shields?
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Old 05-29-2013, 11:09 AM   #4848
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Hopefully they look into the Texas front office for the next GM.
Cleveland. Or perhaps Cinci.
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Old 05-29-2013, 11:24 AM   #4849
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Jean Segura > Escobar, Cain and 1/2 of Shields?
Jean Segura will be the best player in both Greinke trade. On the Shields part 2 years of him not worth Wil Myers. In 2 years Royal fans will be bitter at this trade.
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Old 05-29-2013, 11:26 AM   #4850
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Jean Segura will be the best player in both Greinke trade. On the Shields part 2 years of him not worth Wil Myers. In 2 years Royal fans will be bitter at this trade.
Quit posting in Royals threads douche. Better yet go kill yourself.
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Old 05-29-2013, 11:30 AM   #4851
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Jean Segura will be the best player in both Greinke trade. On the Shields part 2 years of him not worth Wil Myers. In 2 years Royal fans will be bitter at this trade.
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Old 05-29-2013, 01:16 PM   #4852
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Ok, so let's say Yost gets fired. Who is the guy? Who comes in here and turns this shit storm around? I mean, it's hard to defend Yost at this point, but who do you bring in?

Frank White? George Brett? I have no idea.
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Ok, so let's say Yost gets fired. Who is the guy? Who comes in here and turns this shit storm around? I mean, it's hard to defend Yost at this point, but who do you bring in?

Frank White? George Brett? I have no idea.
They burnt the Frank White bridge and George Brett is not a manager ... at most a hitting coach.


I still think we have to change the minor league coaches. We have too many guys with terrible basics.
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Ok, so let's say Yost gets fired. Who is the guy? Who comes in here and turns this shit storm around? I mean, it's hard to defend Yost at this point, but who do you bring in?

Frank White? George Brett? I have no idea.
Ozzie Guillen.
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Ok, so let's say Yost gets fired. Who is the guy? Who comes in here and turns this shit storm around? I mean, it's hard to defend Yost at this point, but who do you bring in?

Frank White? George Brett? I have no idea.
If Moore remains to make the hire, my money's on Mike Jirschele.

And no, I don't think he'll make much difference.
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I did some digging and found a few names:

Ryne Sandberg
Dave Righetti

Can we talk Lou Piniella out of retirement?
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Ozzie Guillen.
F that.

1) He's a former White Sox manager. F that.

2) He's an old school/run/play it right/ignore the stats and pay attention to what your eyes see guy. The last thing the Royals need.
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