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Old 12-11-2012, 08:59 AM  
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2013 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread

Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner
Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play
A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise.

Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk.

At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor.

Burning questions updates below.

Burning Questions for 2013:

1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation?

Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory.

2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door?
Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster.

3) Does Hosmer bounce back?
Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far.
4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012?
Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go.
5) Who regresses?
Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years.
6) Who plays 2B?
Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it.
7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level?
Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha
8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014?
Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014.
9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse?
Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before.
10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers?
Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it?

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Old 06-10-2013, 02:01 PM   #5626
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Old 06-10-2013, 02:05 PM   #5627
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Come on, you know strikeouts don't matter.
Yes, why would you want a late-inning reliever to be good at striking guys out?

It's not like they frequently need to strand runners or be able to pitch out of jams to preserve a lead...
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Old 06-10-2013, 02:07 PM   #5628
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Let's change directions...

So Grady Sizemore is beginning baseball activities this week and could be ready to play again soon.

How much would you be willing to spend on a Sizemore flyer? In all likelihood, he is never again close to the player he was, but on the off chance he is...

I'd be fine with seeing KC offer $3-5 million for Sizemore and taking a chance on him regaining his form. Assuming he's healthy NOW, of course.

With Dyson coming back, you have insurance. And can give Sizemore a lot of rest when needed.
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Old 06-10-2013, 02:30 PM   #5630
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Not getting into this with you. Just a heads up Johnson not a SO pitcher so i really don't care about that stat.Most GM in baseball would take Johnson over Holland. Gotta love Royal fans got the best player at every position yet every year still 15 to 20 games under .500.
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Old 06-10-2013, 02:34 PM   #5631
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Let's change directions...

So Grady Sizemore is beginning baseball activities this week and could be ready to play again soon.

How much would you be willing to spend on a Sizemore flyer? In all likelihood, he is never again close to the player he was, but on the off chance he is...

I'd be fine with seeing KC offer $3-5 million for Sizemore and taking a chance on him regaining his form. Assuming he's healthy NOW, of course.

With Dyson coming back, you have insurance. And can give Sizemore a lot of rest when needed.
He's another Frenchy. PASS
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Old 06-10-2013, 02:37 PM   #5632
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Let's change directions...

So Grady Sizemore is beginning baseball activities this week and could be ready to play again soon.

How much would you be willing to spend on a Sizemore flyer? In all likelihood, he is never again close to the player he was, but on the off chance he is...

I'd be fine with seeing KC offer $3-5 million for Sizemore and taking a chance on him regaining his form. Assuming he's healthy NOW, of course.

With Dyson coming back, you have insurance. And can give Sizemore a lot of rest when needed.
No. His injury history just doesn't justify the risk, and his knees and back are problematic at best. .224/.285/.422 in 71 games back in 2011 and with his knees his speed element is most likely toast. I'd much rather cut ties with Frenchy and keep Lough as a swing guy, although we have a really lefty heavy outfield already.
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Old 06-10-2013, 02:41 PM   #5633
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Not sure what you mean.

Sizemore in no way resembles Francoeur as a player. He's patient, takes walks, and posted 4 seasons that were better than Francoeur's best by the time he was 26.

Sizemore, when healthy, was a complete hitter who worked counts, got on base, and punished mistakes. He also played a very solid CF and could easily handle RF. Oh, and he was a much better baserunner than Francoeur, stealing bases at a 76 percent clip (compared to Francoeur, who is successful just under 60 percent of the time).
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Not sure what you mean.

Sizemore in no way resembles Francoeur as a player. He's patient, takes walks, and posted 4 seasons that were better than Francoeur's best by the time he was 26.

Sizemore, when healthy, was a complete hitter who worked counts, got on base, and punished mistakes. He also played a very solid CF and could easily handle RF. Oh, and he was a much better baserunner than Francoeur, stealing bases at a 76 percent clip (compared to Francoeur, who is successful just under 60 percent of the time).
Only if he's healthy. Which he isn't.
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No. His injury history just doesn't justify the risk, and his knees and back are problematic at best. .224/.285/.422 in 71 games back in 2011 and with his knees his speed element is most likely toast. I'd much rather cut ties with Frenchy and keep Lough as a swing guy, although we have a really lefty heavy outfield already.
Even if the speed element is gone, I think there's a chance he's still capable of being a .280/.350/.450 hitter.

That would be a pretty nice element to add to the Royals' offense.

I wouldn't put all eggs in that basket, but if he's willing to come back for a few million dollars and you can sign him, what's the harm?
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Even if the speed element is gone, I think there's a chance he's still capable of being a .280/.350/.450 hitter.

That would be a pretty nice element to add to the Royals' offense.

I wouldn't put all eggs in that basket, but if he's willing to come back for a few million dollars and you can sign him, what's the harm?
I gave you 10 million a year for a left fielder, 7 million for a right fielder and you got a CF back as part of the trade for my Cy Young pitcher. NOW you need 4 million more.... WHY?/ David Glass
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Even if the speed element is gone, I think there's a chance he's still capable of being a .280/.350/.450 hitter.

That would be a pretty nice element to add to the Royals' offense.

I wouldn't put all eggs in that basket, but if he's willing to come back for a few million dollars and you can sign him, what's the harm?
Hasn't played in 2 years and when he did he put up a sub .300 OBP(Limited games) And hes 30 now. You really think he can put up those numbers? I don't.
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I gave you 10 million a year for a left fielder, 7 million for a right fielder and you got a CF back as part of the trade for my Cy Young pitcher. NOW you need 4 million more.... WHY?/ David Glass
The Frenchy contract is even harder to explain now than it was the moment it was offered, which is pretty damn sad, since most everyone knew how stupid the deal was in the first place.
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The Frenchy contract is even harder to explain now than it was the moment it was offered, which is pretty damn sad, since most everyone knew how stupid the deal was in the first place.
It makes a little more sense now that it's pretty obvious Frenchy and Melky were juicing in 2011 and one of them stopped after they got a fat contract.
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