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Old 12-11-2012, 09:59 AM  
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Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner
Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play
A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise.

Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk.

At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor.

Burning questions updates below.

Burning Questions for 2013:

1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation?

Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory.

2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door?
Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster.

3) Does Hosmer bounce back?
Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far.
4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012?
Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go.
5) Who regresses?
Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years.
6) Who plays 2B?
Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it.
7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level?
Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha
8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014?
Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014.
9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse?
Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before.
10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers?
Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it?

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Old 08-08-2013, 01:40 PM   #9076
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Great! Aviles has averaged 2.1 WAR/162 games in his career. And he's cheap. Alcides by comparison only gets 1.4 WAR/162 games and he cost us our best pitcher in 20 years.


So to recap: Aviles for free, Alcides for a lot. When Aviles is the better player. Awful. Small markets depend on guys like Lough delivering above avg WAR so you don't have to trade for it or pay for it.
I'm not saying we should trade for a RF. I'm saying we shouldn't count on Lough to keep up this pace in the long term.
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Colon is 0.7 WAR or 5M in value. He makes 500k. Getting pretty close, and since he's producing war each of the next 4 years of club control, he's fair value for Upton straight up. More than fair actually.
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Old 08-08-2013, 02:01 PM   #9077
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Just saw Peter Gammons say the Twins were likely to place Josh Willingham on waivers (MLB Network).

KC should be ALL over that, if that's the case. Willingham is signed through next season ($7 million) and offers big-time RH pop.

The teams Gammons mentioned - Rays, Tigers, Rangers - all would be below KC on the waiver list. So you're not just improving your team... you're blocking one of the teams you're trying to catch from improving, too.
His number really declined this year. Age? Discontinue PED use?
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Old 08-08-2013, 02:12 PM   #9078
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His number really declined this year. Age? Discontinue PED use?
He's been hurt all year. Torn meniscus in his knee at one point, which is what he's been on the shelf for most recently. The issue is in his left, or plant leg.
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Old 08-08-2013, 02:19 PM   #9079
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Just saw Peter Gammons say the Twins were likely to place Josh Willingham on waivers (MLB Network).

KC should be ALL over that, if that's the case. Willingham is signed through next season ($7 million) and offers big-time RH pop.

The teams Gammons mentioned - Rays, Tigers, Rangers - all would be below KC on the waiver list. So you're not just improving your team... you're blocking one of the teams you're trying to catch from improving, too.
Looks like he's a below average defender, and he would have to take Lough's spot.

I wouldn't be a fan, but I would probably trust your opinion and bite my tongue if it happened.
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Old 08-08-2013, 02:36 PM   #9080
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Looks like he's a below average defender, and he would have to take Lough's spot.

I wouldn't be a fan, but I would probably trust your opinion and bite my tongue if it happened.
He's a proven RH power bat who is going to OPS .825+ if healthy. He's a negative with the glove - especially if you're asking him to play RF - but I think what he brings with the bat makes up for that. If you slot him into this lineup behind Butler in the 4 spot, it instantly is better. He also is controlled next year for just $7 million. This is a move not just for this year but also for 2014.

Again, if healthy.

I like Lough a lot, especially his defense and versatility. But I think his offense comes back to earth eventually. I'd feel much better with Lough as the 4th guy than as an everyday starter heading into next season.
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Old 08-08-2013, 02:37 PM   #9081
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Old 08-08-2013, 02:41 PM   #9082
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Reuben Amaro, Jr. might be the only GM more delusional than Dayton Moore. That team has a lot of problems. Alex Rios isn't going to fix them.
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He's a proven RH power bat who is going to OPS .825+ if healthy. He's a negative with the glove - especially if you're asking him to play RF - but I think what he brings with the bat makes up for that. If you slot him into this lineup behind Butler in the 4 spot, it instantly is better. He also is controlled next year for just $7 million. This is a move not just for this year but also for 2014.

Again, if healthy.

I like Lough a lot, especially his defense and versatility. But I think his offense comes back to earth eventually. I'd feel much better with Lough as the 4th guy than as an everyday starter heading into next season.
Good enough for me.

If he returned to 2012 form, that would be a huge upgrade for 2014.
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Wait a minute: Twitter is saying Rangers claimed Rios.
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Wait a minute: Twitter is saying Rangers claimed Rios.
Weird I read that it was the Phillies.

but now I see conflicting reports...

http://www.dallasnews.com/sports/tex...uiring-him.ece

I think the initial one must have confused Wells and Rios.
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Weird I read that it was the Phillies.

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/21808...f-waivers.html
That says the Phillies claimed Wells, and that Rios was claimed by an unknown team.

Evan Grant on Twitter says that team is Texas.
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That says the Phillies claimed Wells, and that Rios was claimed by an unknown team.

Evan Grant on Twitter says that team is Texas.
yeah I was sure I saw Rios in a report first but it looks like either I was mistaken or the report was. Now all I am seeing is either Texas or a "mystery team." Not sure I care since I am not a Rios fan and don't think he will help Texas much.
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