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Old 12-12-2012, 11:49 AM  
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Todd McShay Mock Draft

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http://es.pn/XTcpqq First Mock Draft of the pre-draft process. Only 1 QB and he's not going to KC. Have at it...




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Record: 2-11
Star Lotulelei, DT, Utah

This might turn out to be a simple case of bad luck for the Chiefs. They're a year too late to cash in on the Andrew Luck/Robert Griffin III bonanza, and there doesn't appear to be a 2013 quarterback prospect worthy of the No. 1 overall pick. I would have to think West Virginia's Geno Smith would be the choice over USC's Matt Barkley if the Chiefs go that direction, but at this point I think they go elsewhere. Kansas City already has spent first-round picks on the likes of Tyson Jackson and Dontari Poe, but needs a defensive tackle who can hold ground while also providing more pass-rush ability. Lotulelei will never be an elite pass-rusher, but he is strong against the run and has the quickness and power to collapse the pocket. He could become a mainstay in the middle and be good for five to seven sacks per year.
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Old 12-12-2012, 02:00 PM   #106
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Looks like 2008 was the last time a QB did not go #1 overall.


IN retrospect, Matt Ryan should have been, because Miami selected Jake Long over him and where has that gotten them?
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Old 12-12-2012, 02:00 PM   #107
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By Bill Williamson | ESPN.com


1. Kansas City: Star Lotulelei, DT, Utah

My take: We all know the Chiefs need a quarterback badly and we all know there are no great quarterback choices available at the top of the draft. So, this pick works. He would be another fine player on a potentially good defense. Perhaps the Chiefs could find a bridge veteran quarterback and take someone like North Carolina State’s Mike Glennon in the second round.



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Old 12-12-2012, 02:01 PM   #108
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Jones, Moore, or Milliner are definitely tempting. The true fan in me wants to trade back into first for QB
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Old 12-12-2012, 02:02 PM   #109
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1. Kansas City: Star Lotulelei, DT, Utah

My take: We all know the Chiefs need a quarterback badly and we all know there are no great quarterback choices available at the top of the draft. So, this pick works. He would be another fine player on a potentially good defense. Perhaps the Chiefs could find a bridge veteran quarterback and take someone like North Carolina State’s Mike Glennon in the second round.

ESPN just trolling now.
Yeah, it appears the guys at ESPN are trying to prop up Kiper and McShay's idea that there aren't any elite QBs in this draft.

Toeing the company line, so to speak.
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Old 12-12-2012, 02:02 PM   #110
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So wish we sucked this bad last season.

We'd be sitting pretty w/ Andrew Luck right now.

Romeo and Daboll wouldn't be HC/OC.
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Old 12-12-2012, 02:04 PM   #111
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Jones, Moore, or Milliner are definitely tempting. The true fan in me wants to trade back into first for QB
This isn't True Fan. Not anywhere close. Actually, it's being very aggressive, but there isn't a talent after the top 2 guys to justify this type of play.

Worst-case scenario: draft Barkley.
Likely scenario: we draft Smith or Wilson .

Next move: profit.
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Old 12-12-2012, 02:05 PM   #112
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Jones, Moore, or Milliner are definitely tempting. The true fan in me wants to trade back into first for QB
You have to have a partner and it appears this is a weaker draft with players that no one truly "covets"
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Old 12-12-2012, 02:06 PM   #113
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If the scouts aren't hot on Geno Smith or this Glennon guy (haven't watched him play at all this year - never really even heard of him before today actually)

And if they think they will both drop to 2nd round, then you take them in the 2nd rd.

What I don't want to happen...is that we take a QB #1 just because we have the #1 overall pick. Yes it is the most important position and we BADLY need one, but there isn't a RGIII or a Andrew Luck coming out of this draft.

I don't know if there really is a clear #1 pick at this point. There are a lot of guys are IMO are in the 5-10 range, but nothing that warrants a #1 overall pick IMO. Just like 2009, IMO it's going to hard as **** to trade down and KC is going to end up reaching again.
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Wait, is he wanting to move back in the draft, or trade back into the first for a QB? I thought the latter and responded in kind.
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Old 12-12-2012, 02:08 PM   #115
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What I don't want to happen...is that we take a QB #1 just because we have the #1 overall pick. Yes it is the most important position and we BADLY need one, but there isn't a RGIII or a Andrew Luck coming out of this draft.

I don't know if there really is a clear #1 pick at this point. There are a lot of guys are IMO are in the 5-10 range, but nothing that warrants a #1 overall pick IMO. Just like 2009, IMO it's going to hard as **** to trade down and KC is going to end up reaching again.
Yeah, it sure would suck to pick a guy 8-10 slots too high and HAVE a QB vs. not taking one, trading down, or otherwise take a chance that we get NOBODY AND HAVE NO QB going into next year.

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Old 12-12-2012, 02:11 PM   #117
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I want to draft Jones/Moore/Milliner and pass on Smith but trade into first round for Wilson or Barkley at some reasonable point.
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I want to draft Jones/Moore/Milliner and pass on Smith but trade into first round for Wilson or Barkley at some reasonable point.
And if that plan fails?

You end up without a QB.

No ****ing way.
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I love how all the true fans glossed over that he had RG3 going 11th and Tannehill out of the top 25 this time last year.
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What I don't want to happen...is that we take a QB #1 just because we have the #1 overall pick. Yes it is the most important position and we BADLY need one, but there isn't a RGIII or a Andrew Luck coming out of this draft.

I don't know if there really is a clear #1 pick at this point. There are a lot of guys are IMO are in the 5-10 range, but nothing that warrants a #1 overall pick IMO. Just like 2009, IMO it's going to hard as **** to trade down and KC is going to end up reaching again.
So? Who else are you going to take? What position?
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