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Old 12-14-2012, 10:09 AM  
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Connecticut school shooting: 18 children among 27 dead

'Close to 20' dead in Connecticut school shooting, source says
Newtown, Connecticut (CNN) -- Nearly 20 people died Friday in an elementary school shooting in Newtown, Connecticut, a law enforcement source with knowledge of the investigation told CNN.

At least 10 of the dead at Sandy Hook Elementary School were children, the source said. At a news conference Friday afternoon, state police Lt. Paul Vance would say only that there had been "several fatalities."

The school was secure, and the public was not in danger, Vance said.

"Why? Why?" one woman wailed as she walked up a wooded roadway leading from the school.

A parent who was inside the school at the time of the attack said she heard what sounded like at least 100 rounds being fired. She said she saw two school employees who had died.

'I hope my mom is ok': Tweets from the Connecticut school shooting

Hospital officials in neighboring Danbury said they were treating three people wounded in the shooting. Danbury Mayor Mark Boughton said the victims were in "very serious" condition.

The shooter is dead, a source with knowledge of the investigation told CNN's Susan Candiotti. The suspect's body is in a classroom at the school, the source said.

A law enforcement source with knowledge of the investigation said a male was being questioned but he is not being called a suspect.

Federal officers in tactical gear were on the scene, coordinating with local and state police. At least four ambulances remained at the school Friday afternoon.

Police have recovered two weapons from the suspect, a Glock and a Sig Sauer, the source said. It's unclear if police killed the suspect.

'It doesn't seem possible' -- parents shocked by school shooting

Police and teachers rushed students from the building as police swarmed the area shortly after the first calls came in, around 9:40 a.m. ET. Officials moved students to a nearby firehouse, where parents frantically sought information about their children.

Third-grader Alexis Wasik said police and teachers barged into her classroom and told students to hide in the corner.

"Everybody was crying," she said. "And I just heard the police officers yelling."

Aerial images from CNN affiliate News 12 New Jersey showed police officers armed with rifles following a dog into woods near the school.

Other officers, some in tactical gear, stood around the school with guns drawn, CNN affiliate WFSB reported.

All schools in the city were on lockdown Friday as police assessed the situation, Vance said.

Gov. Dan Malloy is "horrified" by what happened, a spokesman said.

White House spokesman Jay Carney said the Obama administration feels "enormous sympathy" for affected families and pledged federal support for state and local law enforcement.

Newtown is about 60 miles north of New York.

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Old 12-15-2012, 11:16 AM   #1036
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I'm not going to say that kids being outside playing ball with other kids is any kind of answer to such violence as we saw yesterday, but it's got to be healthier than being huddled in front of a monitor killing virtual people all night.


I did both growing up and I haven't come close to being a psychopath killer.

There are a lot more activities than just "killing virtual people" on computers, too.

Everything in moderation, dude. Kids should not be banned from computers until they are teenagers.
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Old 12-15-2012, 11:17 AM   #1037
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Unbelievable. Victoria is a hero. That's remarkable stuff. I can't believe someone could take the life of someone like that. It's just sickening. At least her family knows that she died an absolute hero. Such amazing bravery.
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Old 12-15-2012, 11:20 AM   #1038
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I did both growing up and I haven't come close to being a psychopath killer.

There are a lot more activities than just "killing virtual people" on computers, too.

Everything in moderation, dude. Kids should not be banned from computers until they are teenagers.
I mean, come on Clay. I don't think you, of all people, have a voice in this debate! lol

When I discovered the internet, and then high speed internet, around age 15...my life totally changed.

AIM became the best hook up high school tool in the world. Girls galore. I won my first girlfriend over on AIM...we dated for 3 years. 100% AIM victory! It was life changing.

The problem is...now 8 year old kids are spending all of their waking moments online and not experiencing real life relationships. At least I had a mix of the two.
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Old 12-15-2012, 11:20 AM   #1039
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Nothing will take the place of this...
maybe we can make a video game or DVD movie that will do the talking for the super busy parents.
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Old 12-15-2012, 11:20 AM   #1040
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Interesting how the facts trickle out vs. the mad rush by media yesterday. At one point they had the wrong name for the shooter, they said he killed his dad, they said an assault rifle was used, and now we find out his mother was not a teacher at the school and no one at the school ever heard of her.

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Old 12-15-2012, 11:21 AM   #1041
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I mean, come on Clay. I don't think you, of all people, have a voice in this debate! lol
You don't know anything about me.

I used to play pickup football every Saturday, without fail.

And I played tons of basketball at the local rec center.

Just blaming computers for this kid's problems is ignorant.

The problem, as usual, is shitty parenting.

I killed a ton of assholes via the internet and didn't turn into a psychopathic killer.
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Old 12-15-2012, 11:22 AM   #1042
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Wow.

What was she? 20? 24 tops?

Sad...
At least 23 or 24.

Still unbelievably sad and heartbreaking. At least her story came out so her family can know she saved lives, and was a hero.
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Old 12-15-2012, 11:23 AM   #1043
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maybe we can make a video game or DVD movie that will do the talking for the super busy parents.
Or perhaps as this generation fails and crumbles when they ask why we just hold up a mirror.

At this point I'm ready to let society restart...
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Old 12-15-2012, 11:24 AM   #1044
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You don't know anything about me.

I used to play pickup football every Saturday, without fail.

And I played tons of basketball at the local rec center.
Fair enough.

I'm just saying from my own personal experiences...even though I loved video games and the internet I was better off without it. To this day it still distracts me more than anything.

Although with my current job, it saves my life. I'd be so bored without it.
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Old 12-15-2012, 11:26 AM   #1045
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Having that outlet can encourage creativity and develop areas of the brain that might be essential later in life.

In fact being able to work out that aggression online in a peaceful, non-harmful way might help a lot of kids.

You just can't lay down blanket statements.
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Old 12-15-2012, 11:26 AM   #1046
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I did both growing up and I haven't come close to being a psychopath killer.

There are a lot more activities than just "killing virtual people" on computers, too.

Everything in moderation, dude. Kids should not be banned from computers until they are teenagers.

living in a basement and spending the majority of your time on the internet puts you a lot closer to the psychopath than you realize (at least in some people's eyes). I agree it doesn't mean everything, "killing virtual people" without any real life association, teaching and parenting..... well that's probably starting to scrape the tip of the iceburg.

You did say one thing that I agree with, moderation. I use the term "Balance", but essentially we're saying the same thing. It's ok to eat McDonalds, play video games, and act like a fool. It's not ok to only eat McDonalds, play video games and act like a fool....
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This is getting off on a tangent but what if your kid played some video games when he was young, developed a passion for gaming and became fabulously wealthy as a video game developer?

I bet you wouldn't mind then.

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Having that outlet can encourage creativity and develop areas of the brain that might be essential later in life.

In fact being able to work out that aggression online in a peaceful, non-harmful way might help a lot of kids.

You just can't lay down blanket statements.

this is a clay I can respect, where has he been all my life?
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This is getting off on a tangent but what if your kid played some video games when he was young, developed a passion for gaming and became fabulously wealthy as a video game developer?

I bet you wouldn't mind then.

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Old 12-15-2012, 11:28 AM   #1050
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JFC! Its hard to read this stuff & not have tears form



This is Victoria. She died a hero today. She hid her first graders in the cabinets and closets after hearing the gunfire. When the shooter came to her classroom, she told him that her students were in the gym. He then gunned her down and moved on. She saved the lives of all of her students. Please pass this on if you see it. She deserves to be remembered for her bravery.

She threw herself in front of the gunman to save her students: Astonishing story of the brave teacher who died protecting children from 'deeply disturbed' killer

  • Victoria Soto, 27, sacrificed herself to save her first grade students by throwing her body in front of gunman Adam Lanza
  • She was a highly regarded member of staff, popular with students and known for chewing gum in class
  • Principal Dawn Hochsprung and school psychologist Mary Sherlach were also killed execution-style after confronting Lanza

A young teacher displayed astonishing bravery and sacrificed her life saving as many children in her first grade class as she could after she came face-to-face with gunman Adam Lanza.

Victoria Soto, 27, had worked at Sandy Hook Elementary for five years. Her final moments were spent ushering her students into a closet when Lanza entered her classroom and she tried her best to shield the children from the evil gunman.

Soto was a highly regarded young teacher who was popular with her pupils. One young student, Jacob Riley, told Mailonline that Soto was known for chewing gum in class - something not usually allowed for teachers. He said he had often teased her about her habit and she had playfully teased him back.

'She took her kids, put them in the closet and by doing so she lost her life protecting those little ones,' Soto's cousin, Jim Wiltsie, told ABC News.

'She was found huddled over her children, her students, doing instinctively what she knew was the right thing. I'm just proud that Vicki had the instincts to protect her kids from harm,' he continued.

'It brings peace to know that Vicki was doing what she loved, protecting the children and in our eyes she's a hero,' he added.

A deeply distraught 10-year-old boy who is a former student of Miss Soto described her as 'really nice and funny.'

Three teachers were murdered at Sandy Hook Elementary School trying to save their students from gunman Lanza, the son of a woman who worked at the school.

The other two teachers have been identified as principal Dawn Hochsprung, 47, and school psychologist Mary Sherlach, 56.

Twenty-eight people died in the shooting rampage, including 20 young children between the ages of five and ten, alleged gunman Adam Lanza, who took his own life, and his mother, who was shot before the school massacre.

When Lanza started firing at the school in suburban Newtown, Connecticut, some teachers dove under tables - but Mrs Hochsprung and Mrs Sherlach didn't hesitate.

They ran into the hallway to confront the danger and were murdered execution-style as a result.

Little did she know that Adam had already killed his mother at the home they shared nearby. He took three of her guns and used her car to drive to the school.

Diane Day, a school therapist, told the Wall Street Journal that she and several other teachers were in a meeting with Mrs Hochsprung and Mrs Sherlach when the shooting began.

'We were there for about five minutes chatting and we heard, "pop pop pop,"' she said. 'I went under the table.'

The principal and the school psychologist had other ideas. They jumped out of their seats and ran toward the sound of the gunfire.

'They didnít think twice about confronting or seeing what was going on,' Ms Day said.

Rabbi Shaul Praver told MSNBC that Mrs Hochsprung and Mrs Sherlach were killed execution-style.

Tributes for all educators poured in on Friday night. Former school superintendent John Reed told the Connecticut Post that Mrs Sherlach was warm and cared deeply for her students.

'If there ever was a person, by qualifications and personality, to work with children, to be a school psychologist, it was Mary,' he said.

She was married with two grown daughters in their 20s and enjoyed gardening, reading and the theater, according to her school biography.

Friends and neighbors said it was immediately clear to everyone she knew that she loved her students and her school.

'I donít think you could find a more positive place to bring students to every day,' she had recently told a local newspaper.

Another tale of heroism came from an eight-year-old student who said a teacher pulled him from the hallway as bullets rang out.

'I saw some of the bullets going down the hall that I was right next to and then a teacher pulled me into her classroom,' the boy told CBS News.

'It sounded like someone was kicking a door,' he said of the piercing sound of the gunfire.

His relieved mother agreed, saying that the teacher saved her son's life.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ed-killer.html
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