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Old 12-14-2012, 11:09 AM  
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Connecticut school shooting: 18 children among 27 dead

'Close to 20' dead in Connecticut school shooting, source says
Newtown, Connecticut (CNN) -- Nearly 20 people died Friday in an elementary school shooting in Newtown, Connecticut, a law enforcement source with knowledge of the investigation told CNN.

At least 10 of the dead at Sandy Hook Elementary School were children, the source said. At a news conference Friday afternoon, state police Lt. Paul Vance would say only that there had been "several fatalities."

The school was secure, and the public was not in danger, Vance said.

"Why? Why?" one woman wailed as she walked up a wooded roadway leading from the school.

A parent who was inside the school at the time of the attack said she heard what sounded like at least 100 rounds being fired. She said she saw two school employees who had died.

'I hope my mom is ok': Tweets from the Connecticut school shooting

Hospital officials in neighboring Danbury said they were treating three people wounded in the shooting. Danbury Mayor Mark Boughton said the victims were in "very serious" condition.

The shooter is dead, a source with knowledge of the investigation told CNN's Susan Candiotti. The suspect's body is in a classroom at the school, the source said.

A law enforcement source with knowledge of the investigation said a male was being questioned but he is not being called a suspect.

Federal officers in tactical gear were on the scene, coordinating with local and state police. At least four ambulances remained at the school Friday afternoon.

Police have recovered two weapons from the suspect, a Glock and a Sig Sauer, the source said. It's unclear if police killed the suspect.

'It doesn't seem possible' -- parents shocked by school shooting

Police and teachers rushed students from the building as police swarmed the area shortly after the first calls came in, around 9:40 a.m. ET. Officials moved students to a nearby firehouse, where parents frantically sought information about their children.

Third-grader Alexis Wasik said police and teachers barged into her classroom and told students to hide in the corner.

"Everybody was crying," she said. "And I just heard the police officers yelling."

Aerial images from CNN affiliate News 12 New Jersey showed police officers armed with rifles following a dog into woods near the school.

Other officers, some in tactical gear, stood around the school with guns drawn, CNN affiliate WFSB reported.

All schools in the city were on lockdown Friday as police assessed the situation, Vance said.

Gov. Dan Malloy is "horrified" by what happened, a spokesman said.

White House spokesman Jay Carney said the Obama administration feels "enormous sympathy" for affected families and pledged federal support for state and local law enforcement.

Newtown is about 60 miles north of New York.

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Old 12-14-2012, 12:19 PM   #106
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Geez - the TV goober just said that today 22 children were stabbed in China by some nut job. Do we have to outlaw knives next? Forks? Clawhammers?
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Old 12-14-2012, 12:19 PM   #107
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Most schools are locked except the front door. Most schools I have seen usually have at least 1 armed guard or police on site.
Really? NONE of the schools my son has gone to since Kindergarten have any security.
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Old 12-14-2012, 12:19 PM   #108
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NBC saying there is a second person in custody, maybe a coincidence (not part of shooting).
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Old 12-14-2012, 12:19 PM   #109
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Get off your high horse, drama queen.
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Old 12-14-2012, 12:20 PM   #110
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Old 12-14-2012, 12:21 PM   #111
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I think it's time to arm & train teachers
This. Probably the most logical thing that can be done at this point. Most school districts/police departments will not have the funding or manpower to place an officer in every school in their city's school district. Time to start training/arming the school principal and other selected few who are capable to defend their schools.
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Old 12-14-2012, 12:22 PM   #112
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Amen.
At least give it a day before you bring up that stuff. Show some respect and common decency.
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Old 12-14-2012, 12:22 PM   #113
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This. Probably the most logical thing that can be done at this point. Most school districts/police departments will not have the funding or manpower to place an officer in every school in their city's school district. Time to start training/arming the school principal and other selected few who are capable to defend their schools.
Disgruntled teacher shoots up school. News at 9.
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Old 12-14-2012, 12:22 PM   #114
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Really? NONE of the schools my son has gone to since Kindergarten have any security.
I have a key fob to get into my youngest child's preschool and there is only one entry point for my other daughter's elementary school. But no security personnel that I know of.
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Old 12-14-2012, 12:23 PM   #115
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This. Probably the most logical thing that can be done at this point. Most school districts/police departments will not have the funding or manpower to place an officer in every school in their city's school district. Time to start training/arming the school principal and other selected few who are capable to defend their schools.
The easiest way for a kid to start shooting up a school is to arm a teacher or put a gun in a classroom. It's a good theory, but it has no place in reality.
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Old 12-14-2012, 12:23 PM   #116
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I am sick to my stomach. They need to methodically torture the murderer in a public square.


With the techonology we have today, they can certainly install face recognition tech at the main entrance that will completely shut down everything if an unauthorized person enters the first door.

I am just reaching for anything right now, because we all know that the alternative will not work.
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Old 12-14-2012, 12:24 PM   #117
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Old 12-14-2012, 12:24 PM   #118
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Disgruntled teacher shoots up school. News at 9.
Yep.


I wouldn't trust 90% of teachers with a nerf gun.
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Old 12-14-2012, 12:25 PM   #119
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I am sick to my stomach. They need to methodically torture the murderer in a public square.
These bastards always off themselves though.
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Old 12-14-2012, 12:25 PM   #120
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I'm pretty certain most schools have only one access point. This was a large elementary school. I can't imagine the guy came in through an open door.

Guess we'll know more as time moves forward.
Incorrect. Most schools have multiple access points.

My kid's elementary school, all the doors are locked. Supposed to need a key card to enter any of the doors. However, this relies on people to not prop them open, not let other people in, etc. They also put a button by the door (with a camera that doesn't work worth a shit) for people to push to get buzzed in.

At the middle school and high school we have security guards and/or police officers.

Security is only as strong as the weakest link and unfortunately, there are a lot of weak links where our schools are concerned.
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