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I disagree on your take with the video games. Our sons are the same age and like you mine wanted to play the gun games the very most from an early age. Like you I thought about whether that was appropriate but only for a second. Those games are not glorifying murder. If in that game you were breaking into someone’s house and filling them full of holes or opening fire on a school that would be one thing. For the most part you are defending yourself against zombies or some lame ass thing. Hardcore military would be inappropriate for a young child so he doesn’t play those.
The whole gun culture thing is lame too. I was raised in a gun culture. Nobody was running around opening fire on groups of innocent people. My vote for the real problem is a combination of the psychotropic drugs they are on and the fact that the media is making these kids famous.
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I think maybe it's more to do with people realizing it can be done. I'm not sure that people thought of a mass shooting as something they could do, and the more frequent nature of it happening makes them think, "I could do that. If I did it this is what I'd do differently."
I do think there's a certain lack of respect for other people. I think of it more in terms of people posting youtube videos of people getting beat up, hit by cars, getting seriously injured, etc. I would be much more concerned if I found out my kid was watching videos of someone being actually injured than I would be if he was playing a first person shooter. |
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The view of depression and other forms of mental illness as something that people just need to toughen up and get over themselves... It's all part of the conversation we need to have, IMO. Gun regulation is a nominal part of the solution, IMO. Not irrelevant, but to make it the singular subject of discussion to the extent that it polarizes people who might otherwise work together on the other dimensions, is a real shame. |
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The biggest impact would be for people to actually do things themselves. Volunteering time and resources. We know a couple that feeds and tutors impoverished kids in Dallas after school, for instance. I don't do enough. I'm basically a selfish person. But if people actually, realistically, wanted to make a large scale change that would be the way. More person-to-person involvement. Government help can do so much, but I think there's an impersonal nature to it that doesn't satisfy. And then there's people you'll never reach, no matter what you do. No amount of money or care can help them. |
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But I think the only wrong answer at this point is to believe that nothing can be done. Much of "human nature" is not defined by the actual person, but defined by the ground rules with which we engage with each other. That you see such diverse cultures around the world suggests to me that it's entirely possible to have a different culture. It's possible, just difficult. And the path to get there is completely unclear and I'm sure incredibility difficult. It's not going to happen from the top down. While I think that access to high performance weapons needs regulation, banning guns isn't the solution. But saying nothing can be done (and letting that be the final word) is probably the only wrong answer, IMO. |
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Oh wait, that's already started...
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The mental health care is system reflects the health care system as a whole. Fragmented, and often those who need the most urgent care do not have access to the system, for many reasons.
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That sounds dangerous too. Let's just put people away who's ideas we don't agree with.
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Unfortunately, most of them are. Certain ones have violent and suicidal side effects.
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Um, that's why there's now mental health screenings in schools...and even for communities. Big Pharma would love more on some of their drugs that they make for such conditions.
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From what I am seeing on this issue from other boards, this mental health push is being pushed by lefties everywhere. Is state mental health or state mandated mental health, now that the govt is to mandate health insurance next on the agenda? Oh brother are we moving closer to dystopia.
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Maybe we should just shoot everybody thats pshyco.
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Question is who gets to decide?
Many of these gun shooting cases were in the hands of some mental health professionals before such acts were committed. There's a long list of them and they were on drugs that produce such violence as a side effect. Is this the way we want to go when it's been done already?
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