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Old 12-17-2012, 12:04 AM  
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Rumor: Todd Haley going back to Arizona?

Just saw on NBC 41 Jack Harry is reporting that Jason LaCanfora is saying Haley will be Arizonas top choice for replacing Whisenhunt.
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Old 12-24-2012, 08:35 AM   #91
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You're an idiot. Haley isn't going to be fired and the offense isn't a disaster there. He hasn't been an offensive mastermind, but there are far bigger problems than Haley in Pittsburgh. And it starts with your idiotic claim that Haley is losing games behind a top notch defense. The defensive decline is one of the biggest reasons the Steelers aren't the Steelers.

And Haley was hired for a specific reason. Because Big Ben is 30 and can't afford to play in an aerial offense anymore and they can't afford to have Big Ben exposed as he's been in the past to get clobbered. Despite Ben's injury, he's been knocked around a whole lot less this year and even crappy linemen are blocking with much better technique, just as we saw in Kansas City. Haley isn't going to get fired.


The #1 defense in the league is the reason the Steelers are failing...

WWWWOOOOOWWWW!!!
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Old 12-24-2012, 08:47 AM   #92
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The #1 defense in the league is the reason the Steelers are failing...

WWWWOOOOOWWWW!!!
Okay, captain "I read the stats pages." You're probably the same person who read Matt Cassel's stats page and said he had a pro bowl year in 2009 because he had healthy yards and few INTs.

Go tell any smart Steelers fan they have a #1 defense. See how much they laugh in your face.
-The Steelers have been ranked in the top TWO in points defense 5 times out of 6. This year, they're ranked TEN. They dropped ten spots.
-Their defense typically creates 25 takeaways a year. For the first time ever, they are on pace to not hit even close to 20. In fact, they are in the bottom 5 in takeaways
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Old 12-24-2012, 08:54 AM   #93
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Damn yo!

They are 10th in points?

Thats a killer right there. Clearly why they aren't going to the playoffs.

Nothing to do with that terrible 22nd ranked offense they have... nothing!

But the offense is more "efficient," keep Haley! He's doing a bang up job!
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Old 12-24-2012, 08:56 AM   #94
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The #1 defense in the league is the reason the Steelers are failing...

WWWWOOOOOWWWW!!!
You want to have a smart conversation about why the Steelers are struggling instead of the herpderp "Haley is new. Steelers not win. Haley make Steeler not win" argument?

Defense isn't dominant anymore -- they're losing more games than usual and not taking the ball away. Injuries on offense -- Mendenhall has missed most of the season, they lost Willie Colon, David DeCastro, and Mike Adams all year long. Those were guys expected to be starters, and so you now have two scrubs starting in the interior line and a late round rookie starting at right tackle. Fumbles -- you can't explain it, but they have twice as many fumbles than in most years. 6 of those 20 fumbles came from backup RBs. Maybe that's on Haley. I don't know.

And sorry... but while I think Big Ben is a terrific player, his M.O. has ALWAYS been that he does just enough to win a game, and he is elite in his ability to do that. In the last 2 losses, in the Steelers' last drive, Big Ben had the ball and threw an open pass poorly and right into the hands of the receiver. I don't think Ben is 100% right now in his throwing arm. But those INTs are not bad playcalling. That's on the QB and those are throws Ben almost always completes.
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Old 12-24-2012, 08:59 AM   #95
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All these excuses for Haley's failing.

When he was in KC: "Haley just needs a QB to be successful."

Insert the Steelers and Roethlisberger (he still sucks): [Insert excuse after excuse.]

But, but, but... Haley >>>> Crennel.

Good job Haley! Here's your Special Olympics gold medal!
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Old 12-24-2012, 09:01 AM   #96
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Damn yo!

They are 10th in points?

Thats a killer right there. Clearly why they aren't going to the playoffs.

Nothing to do with that terrible 22nd ranked offense they have... nothing!

But the offense is more "efficient," keep Haley! He's doing a bang up job!
They were ranked 21st in offense last year. And they are ranked 21st in offense because they lost their thousand yard rushing RB and three out of 5 of their offensive linemen which, more than anything, led to a horrible run offense that was ranked 24th in the league.

Big Ben, by the way, was on pace to have career numbers in yards, TDs, and least amount of INTs and sacks before he got injured. But of course, this offense is poison to Big Ben.

If you watched games and didn't rely on stats pages, you'll see that the o-line is blocking with better technique but lousy backup talent are getting crushed. A lot of problems get solved by the time getting healthier or getting better depth.
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Old 12-24-2012, 09:03 AM   #97
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Balls deep on Haley.

Sad.
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Old 12-24-2012, 09:28 AM   #98
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All these excuses for Haley's failing.

When he was in KC: "Haley just needs a QB to be successful."

Insert the Steelers and Roethlisberger (he still sucks): [Insert excuse after excuse.]

But, but, but... Haley >>>> Crennel.

Good job Haley! Here's your Special Olympics gold medal!
Haley was fired because of a poor 2010. In that season, he was given cassel and jamaal Charles was out. So yes, it's ridiculous to expect a team that is solely reliant on Matt cassel to win games.

In Pittsburgh... The steelers have always been a close game team. Their defense is slipping and they're missing three starters on the offensive line blocking for running backs in what is now a bottom 10 running game.

These are not excuses. These are reasons. And the fact that you would throw Romeo in here, even though Haley was clearly better shows how much of a hater you are.
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Old 12-24-2012, 09:30 AM   #99
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Balls deep on Haley.

Sad.
I have never said Haley was a great coach. I'm defending against idiots like you that believe Haley did everything wrong and that deny that he hasn't had a lot of bad breaks outside of his control that limited his success.
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Old 12-24-2012, 11:48 AM   #100
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And I wouldn't be surprised if the Steelers fired him after 1 year there.

You've got a coach who didn't want him. A QB who didn't want him. The #1 defense in the league. With the 22nd ranked offense in the league.

Haley sucks and yet dumbass threads like this get bumped because people continue to swing from his sack like he was some genius in KC who didn't get to maximize his potential.

Everyone wants to talk about Roethlisbergers picks at the end of the game to lose. Yet no one wants to mention the whopping 10 point plan whipped up by Haley.
The picks have a direct affect on the number of points scored.

Get over Todd Haley already. JFC
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Old 12-24-2012, 11:53 AM   #101
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The picks have a direct affect on the number of points scored.

Get over Todd Haley already. JFC
I'll get over him the day he's no longer being talked about on this board with people saying "They'd love to have his less than mediocre ass back in KC."
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Old 12-24-2012, 12:02 PM   #102
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I'll get over him the day he's no longer being talked about on this board with people saying "They'd love to have his less than mediocre ass back in KC."
Why does it bother you? If he sucks that bad, why do you care?

Petty much?
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Old 12-24-2012, 12:04 PM   #103
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Why does it bother you? If he sucks that bad, why do you care?

Petty much?
Why do you continue to show up in Haley threads if you are done with him?
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Old 12-24-2012, 12:07 PM   #104
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Old 12-24-2012, 12:12 PM   #105
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Why do you continue to show up in Haley threads if you are done with him?
I am not done with him. Somebody has to make sure the truth is represented in this world of all black, all white.
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