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Old 12-17-2012, 01:19 PM  
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Bucs players grumbling about “college” coaches

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Posted by Mike Florio on December 17, 2012, 8:38 AM EST


Well, it was fun while it lasted.

With a style that made him a successful as a college head coach and no reluctance to send packing any veterans who were deemed to be unable or unwilling to accept his “toes on the line!” tendencies, coach Greg Schiano lifted the Bucs into contention via four straight wins.

But 6-4 has since yielded to four straight losses, culminating in a 41-0 blowout loss in the Bayou, to the Bucs’ NFC South rivals.

And the frustration is showing. The incident between assistant coach Bryan Cox and linebacker Adam Hayward was public; privately, the grumbling has begun.

“Can we send these coaches back to college?” one player privately said after the game.

Schiano won’t be going back to college any time soon, and the fact that several of the assistants have NFL experience make them other than college coaches. But the reality is that Schiano’s college-style approach to grown men will work only if the team wins. When losing takes hold, NFL players will complain about college tactics.The question moving forward is whether Schiano will adjust his style, or whether he will continue to do things the way he sees fit, continuing to identify those who don’t like doing it his way — and sending them down the highway.Based on the way Schiano has handled the victory formation issue, we’re guessing it’s the latter. And it may work. But if the Bucs don’t win, eventually there may not be enough players left to field a team.
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Old 12-17-2012, 01:21 PM   #2
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i think Schiano would take Pioli in a minute, they both have those micromanaging douchebag egos that everyone hates
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Old 12-17-2012, 01:26 PM   #3
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Old 12-17-2012, 01:26 PM   #4
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i think Schiano would take Pioli in a minute, they both have those micromanaging douchebag egos that everyone hates

Like most NFL coaches (including very successful ones) aren't micromanaging lunatics?
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Old 12-17-2012, 01:42 PM   #5
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A lot of these guys are the same ones who ran Morris out too. I think it's more than just a college coach problem.
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Old 12-17-2012, 01:44 PM   #6
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A lot of these guys are the same ones who ran Morris out too. I think it's more than just a college coach problem.
Yep.
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Old 12-17-2012, 01:45 PM   #7
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Old 12-17-2012, 01:46 PM   #8
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Old 12-17-2012, 01:47 PM   #9
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A lot of these guys are the same ones who ran Morris out too. I think it's more than just a college coach problem.
Exactly Raheem was a players coach and they played poorly for him too. Give Schiano a few more years to bring in some more talent and guys that want to actually play.
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Old 12-17-2012, 02:14 PM   #10
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A lot of these guys are the same ones who ran Morris out too. I think it's more than just a college coach problem.
not really

they turned over like 3/4s of the roster

there is a good chance it could be guys they spent a lot of money on this offseason to bring in. cough, Vincent Jackson

it also could be a rookie like Doug Martin or Mark Barron

you dont know. But literally the only guys left from Raheem are Gerald McCoy, Freeman, Mike Williams, Ronde Barber and probably some o-lineman turds like Jeremy Trueblood or some lingering farts. Oh and Connor Barth. Definitely probably Connor Barth, former Chiefs great
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Old 12-17-2012, 02:18 PM   #11
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not really

they turned over like 3/4s of the roster

there is a good chance it could be guys they spent a lot of money on this offseason to bring in. cough, Vincent Jackson

it also could be a rookie like Doug Martin or Mark Barron

you dont know. But literally the only guys left from Raheem are Gerald McCoy, Freeman, Mike Williams, Ronde Barber and probably some o-lineman turds like Jeremy Trueblood or some lingering farts. Oh and Connor Barth. Definitely probably Connor Barth, former Chiefs great
3/4 of the roster? No they didn't.
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Old 12-17-2012, 03:48 PM   #13
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3/4 of the roster? No they didn't.
You are correct:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...=3&output=html

Almost 60% of it was turned over, though.
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Bryan Cox is an assistant coach? I figured he was probably dead in a gang shooting by now.
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Old 12-17-2012, 04:16 PM   #15
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My thought as well. You learn something new everyday.
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