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Old 12-18-2012, 02:02 PM  
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Would you be okay with ONE MORE year of this bullshit for Manziel and/or picks?

This may have been covered in currently existing threads, but I've been thinking about this a lot. Would you be okay with the Chiefs trading down or surrendering their first-round pick, in exchange for a first rounder next year (along with a second + either this year or next)?

We could pick up one of the many "slightly above average" guys with our second rounder this year, and we'd likely be in position to draft Manziel outright next year, or combine our firsts to move up to get him? Alternatively, this could of course apply to other QBs who see their stock rocket (personally, I think Aaron Murray at Georgia would be a great pick, but the jury's still out; Louisville's Bridgewater and VT's L Thomas also come to mind).

So, what say you? Could you tolerate that scenario? Would you tolerate it if we had a new coach and GM, and the trade back this year was very transparent about our motives for next year's draft?

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Old 12-18-2012, 02:07 PM   #16
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Manziel is a ****ing freshman... we'd need to wait 2 years. LOL. WTF?
He's already at second in most 2014 NFL mock drafts, including Walter's: http://walterfootball.com/draft2014.php
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Old 12-18-2012, 02:08 PM   #17
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Manziel will be a second round pick AT BEST when he comes out.
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Old 12-18-2012, 02:08 PM   #18
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Tim Tebow was great in college too, lets draft him.


Enough with this ****ing bullshit.
Okay, what about ANY QB in next year's class? We'd still end up with one in this year's class, be able to draft a nearly as capable QB in the second this year, and still gain multiple picks.
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Old 12-18-2012, 02:09 PM   #19
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Answer me a question assholes, how many years are there a can't miss prospect?


Enough with this bullshit.
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Old 12-18-2012, 02:10 PM   #20
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Old 12-18-2012, 02:10 PM   #21
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He's already at second in most 2014 NFL mock drafts, including Walter's: http://walterfootball.com/draft2014.php
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Old 12-18-2012, 02:10 PM   #22
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Old 12-18-2012, 02:10 PM   #23
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Manziel will be a second round pick AT BEST when he comes out.
Then read the entire thing. What about Bridgewater, Murray, or Thomas? These guys will likely be near the top next year. This year's class doesn't have any significant standout, but NFL teams are under increasing pressure to draft a signal caller (admittedly, the Chiefs are one of the biggest examples of that) and we could gain significantly and see how a second-rounder this year fares. If he fails, we'll likely be in position to draft anyway, and we could pick up extra pieces with the ammo received this year, and have a backup in place (2013 second rounder) for whatever QB we draft.
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Old 12-18-2012, 02:11 PM   #24
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Okay, what about ANY QB in next year's class? We'd still end up with one in this year's class, be able to draft a nearly as capable QB in the second this year, and still gain multiple picks.
If you trade picks and wait till the second round, you are taking a chance that a QB you like falls to you. Why the **** would yo do that?


Thats how you end up with the 5th best project QB in tihs class.
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Old 12-18-2012, 02:11 PM   #25
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Old 12-18-2012, 02:12 PM   #26
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Then read the entire thing. What about Bridgewater, Murray, or Thomas?
Do you really think those assholes are better than Geno Smith?

Murray is probably going to declare this year.

2014 QBs suck horse dong.
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Old 12-18-2012, 02:12 PM   #28
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If you trade picks and wait till the second round, you are taking a chance that a QB you like falls to you. Why the **** would yo do that?


Thats how you end up with the 5th best project QB in tihs class.
Okay, and if he sucks, you'll be in position anyway to draft a better QB next year. You then have a backup (unless you're interested in keeping Quinn or $10.5MM Cassel) and an extra first to spend on another piece. This team isn't a QB away from a Super Bowl, despite what many of us may "feel".
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Geno Smith is a better NFL QB prospect than Manziel, IMO. So no, I wouldn't do it.
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Old 12-18-2012, 02:12 PM   #30
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This is ****ing depressing.

Stanley, take the Luck goggles off. This years class is as good as any class prior to or other than last year.
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