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Old 12-20-2012, 04:00 PM  
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More Veterans Die While Waiting for Benefits

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Your government mandated benefits and healthcare at work.... enjoy and just wait - you are next

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Old 12-21-2012, 03:31 PM   #16
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Thank goodness there won't be backlog with the millions of newly "insured".
This is a good point. We need more doctors because of Obamacare.
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Old 12-21-2012, 06:43 PM   #17
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This is a good point. We need more doctors because of Obamacare.
How many people are going to want to be doctors when they can no longer make an exorbitant amount of money at a private practice as they do now? Government doctors are usually the bottom of the barrel and get paid like the bottom of the barrel should be paid. Those that use government doctors get lesser care for the most part.
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Old 12-21-2012, 08:34 PM   #18
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This is a good point. We need more doctors because of Obamacare.
Yeah they'll be quality doctors too.
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Old 12-21-2012, 10:53 PM   #19
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How many people are going to want to be doctors when they can no longer make an exorbitant amount of money at a private practice as they do now? Government doctors are usually the bottom of the barrel and get paid like the bottom of the barrel should be paid. Those that use government doctors get lesser care for the most part.
What the tuck are you talking about?
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Old 12-21-2012, 11:17 PM   #20
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I wonder if government-run health care will be as resounding a success as government-run education.

Looking forward to unionized doctors going on strike. That'll be a hoot.
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Old 12-22-2012, 10:57 AM   #21
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What the tuck are you talking about?
By asking a question like that you are totally disconnected from what our veterans go through. Do some digging on the history of the quality of health care given by the VA. If you do so your question will be answered.
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Old 12-22-2012, 10:59 AM   #22
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I wonder if government-run health care will be as resounding a success as government-run education.

Looking forward to unionized doctors going on strike. That'll be a hoot.
Just look at the VA, that make your comment more of a fact in evidence. Why do government employees have to be represented by a union? Ever wonder about that?
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Old 12-22-2012, 11:50 AM   #23
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What the tuck are you talking about?
He's talking about how many people won't want to be doctors when they can no longer make an exorbitant amount of money at a private practice like they do now? He's talking about how government doctors are usually the bottom of the barrel and get paid like the bottom of the barrel should be paid. He's talking about how those that use government doctors get lesser care for the most part.
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Old 12-22-2012, 12:12 PM   #24
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By asking a question like that you are totally disconnected from what our veterans go through. Do some digging on the history of the quality of health care given by the VA. If you do so your question will be answered.
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He's talking about how many people won't want to be doctors when they can no longer make an exorbitant amount of money at a private practice like they do now? He's talking about how government doctors are usually the bottom of the barrel and get paid like the bottom of the barrel should be paid. He's talking about how those that use government doctors get lesser care for the most part.
First, the quality of care at the VA is very good.

Second, Obamacare doesn't increase "government doctors." Obamacare did nothing to decrease the amount of money doctors will make. It didn't create "government doctors."

Do you understand what the Affordable Care Act did?
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Old 12-22-2012, 12:41 PM   #25
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First, the quality of care at the VA is very good.

Second, Obamacare doesn't increase "government doctors." Obamacare did nothing to decrease the amount of money doctors will make. It didn't create "government doctors."

Do you understand what the Affordable Care Act did?
The history of care with the VA has never been "very good", it isn't even fair. Affordable Care is not what it's hyped up to be, if you don't believe that the government payout for care is less than what your current care might be paying you need to check into Medicare and the government insurances. Years ago the military had Champus, now it's called Tricare. Check out the difference between an allowed amount of payout for one of the top of the line insurance companies then check out what the military payouts are and also check into Medicare. You will see a vast difference between what they allow for the same charge. Regular health care might allow a little more than 50% of charged amounts. Medicare allows much less and the people I know that get military care only have 30-35% allowed.

Find someone on medicare and ask what they think of the differences between medicare an regular health care, do the same for military insurance. VA care is free, but if you want to use a football analogy, compare Joe Montana to Matt Cassel. If they were both doctors who's percentage of success would you want? Joe would be working for Johns Hopkins and Matt most likely would be a VA doctor.

I will concede that since the Iraq war the level of care with the VA has gotten better, but I would stop way short of calling it good.
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Old 12-22-2012, 01:19 PM   #26
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The history of care with the VA has never been "very good", it isn't even fair. Affordable Care is not what it's hyped up to be, if you don't believe that the government payout for care is less than what your current care might be paying you need to check into Medicare and the government insurances. Years ago the military had Champus, now it's called Tricare. Check out the difference between an allowed amount of payout for one of the top of the line insurance companies then check out what the military payouts are and also check into Medicare. You will see a vast difference between what they allow for the same charge. Regular health care might allow a little more than 50% of charged amounts. Medicare allows much less and the people I know that get military care only have 30-35% allowed.

Find someone on medicare and ask what they think of the differences between medicare an regular health care, do the same for military insurance. VA care is free, but if you want to use a football analogy, compare Joe Montana to Matt Cassel. If they were both doctors who's percentage of success would you want? Joe would be working for Johns Hopkins and Matt most likely would be a VA doctor.

I will concede that since the Iraq war the level of care with the VA has gotten better, but I would stop way short of calling it good.
People love Medicare because it's a funding program. It's not a care program. It's not like you go to a special Medicare doctor when you're on Medicare.
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Old 12-22-2012, 04:33 PM   #27
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People love Medicare because it's a funding program. It's not a care program. It's not like you go to a special Medicare doctor when you're on Medicare.
You are the proverbial brick wall. I can't see any use talking to someone that has something settled in their mind, and in their mind only, and does not realize they are wrong on so many fronts.
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