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Old 12-22-2012, 01:21 PM  
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Stem Cells Restore Vision

Stem cells restore vision in blind man


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Taylor Binns never planned to experience a simple delight of the world again: seeing it. The world was slowly going black, and time was running out. So he took his only options: a new procedure using stem cells. What we all take for granted became his gift: he could see again.

In a road-to-hell-is-paved-with-good-intentions story, Binns was doing mission work in Haiti, where he developed eye pain and blurring vision. No one knew what the problem was. Doctors were baffled while he slowly went legally blind during a two-year period.

In Binns' words, "Everything you could do before was being taken away, day by day, and it got worse and worse."

Finally, he was diagnosed with corneal limbal stem cell deficiency, which essentially meant his eyes were building scar tissue. Many things can cause the disease, including leaving contact lenses in for too long without disinfecting them. It also creates a problem: due to the nature of the disease, a corneal transplant is not an option.

What was an option was a procedure called a limbal stem cell transplant. Doctors in Toronto removed the scar tissue from his eyes and replaced it with stem cells from his sister's eyes. In a month, his vision was 20/40. It rose to 20/20 and 20/40.

His pain is gone.
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Old 12-22-2012, 06:00 PM   #31
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He sure was because those vaccines didn't kill anybody in the process of discovery. Dead language or dead history of origin of the language ? You know kinda of like what is happening to our country when the masses of people are soooo dumbed down they don't even know their own country's history and will repeat it like other societies and civilizations that have gone down the toilet because they repeated the same mistakes which eventually have a negative impact on your modern day morals as you say.
Zero ****s given.

Cure blindness, cure cancer, cure everything. Either this country can step to the forefront of stem cell research and lead the world in that field and reap the profits of such amazing scientific breakthroughs, or be held back by those that think they know what God is thinking and watch another country pass us in relevance when we should have been the ones blazing the trail. There is just way too much potential good to come out of stem cell research to not explore every nuance of what it could help with.

It is the way of the future, like it or not.
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Old 12-22-2012, 06:47 PM   #32
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It's f'ing stupid stem cell research doesn't get more funding.

But...the rich elitists want world population reduction.
Here is what you don't get. It doesn't need to get funding because the private sector is already funding what has been successfully shown so far in 'non-fetus stem cell' research. There has been over 30yrs of research and study of both 'non-fetus' and 'fetus stem cells' to this very moment and all the success and medical breakthroughs have occurred using 'non-fetus' stem cells therefore the private sector $ Wall Street will continue to fund what shows promise. IF fetus stem cells were successful that is where the $$ would go as well but they haven't been successful thus private $$ won't invest there. Sooooooooo when you hear the mantra 'we need more funding for stem cell research' what you are really hearing is the Progressive Left wanting more of our tax $$ to fund only 'fetus stem cell' research which has been proven unsuccessful for over 30yrs. Yet we still need to keep funding a failure and a moral failure at that ?
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Old 12-22-2012, 06:55 PM   #33
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In this very rare case stem cells helped this patient save his vision. In most intrinsic eye diseases and mutations stem cells would not help restore, improve or save someones vision. The limbal stem cells main purpose is only to regenerate the top layer of the cornea called the epithelium. A healthy limbus that produces that proper amount of stem cells can completely regenerate the epithelium in as little as 14 days. Most corneal dystrophies occur in the layers under the epithelium in the stroma and endothelium.

I am not against stem cell research as there are a lot of areas where they could and are doing good but this particular case is not the strongest argument of curing widespread eye disease with the use of stem cells.
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Old 12-22-2012, 06:57 PM   #34
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Old 12-22-2012, 07:58 PM   #35
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the religious right wants you to believe that they are growing babies and chopping off pieces of them or something...

simply not the case. It's ridiculous that we could save lives or make people's lives better and NOPE! God doesn't want you to do that. Bullshit.
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Old 12-22-2012, 09:46 PM   #36
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There are two types of stem cells.

ALL currently successful stem cell research, such as the story in the OP, is coming from adult stem cells.

The type of stem cell religious folks have a problem with, embryonic stem cells, CAN come from aborted fetuses. They can also come from placental/umbilical tissue. However, embryonic stem cells, to date, have shown almost zero promise.
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Old 12-22-2012, 10:01 PM   #37
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Stem cell research should be a driving force behind 21st century America.
No shit . Only a complete idiot would oppose it.

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Old 12-22-2012, 10:03 PM   #38
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High Tech is Sorcery and the people who are really powerful are literally telling people to commit crimes using the psychic interspace created by the WWW and Wireless. They are controlling peoples actions like drones . The two things are deeply intertwined. The more man's brain interfaces with machines the creepier it gets. They use brains separate from a human body in a supercomputer and you have The Image of the Beast. The military has been doing this since the 50s
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Old 12-22-2012, 10:08 PM   #39
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Old 12-22-2012, 10:20 PM   #40
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the religious right wants you to believe that they are growing babies and chopping off pieces of them or something...

simply not the case. It's ridiculous that we could save lives or make people's lives better and NOPE! God doesn't want you to do that. Bullshit.

So hypothetically speaking if it were discovered that 'human fetus stem cells' could cure the world's health ills(of which in reality they have been shown an abysmal failure so far and only the non-fetus stem cells have shown great success) you would be willing to allow farms of impregnated women(creating lives) to occur only then to terminate/murder these impregnated lives for the sole purpose of using their 'fetus stem cells' to better or save someone else's life ?

You create life only to kill life in order to save life? See the insanity of that?

Quite frankly as a society we are already there to some degree. The moment life becomes devalued and expendable to the point of being tossed away like used tissue paper, because now that new life has now become a huge inconvenience and that responsibility of a new life must be quietly 'snuffed out' and superficially ignored with all the definitional games of societal denial of when life really begins. This only ultimately destroy's that society's own moral compass to the point where 'relativity' rules in all aspects of life thus leading that society to view humans as no more than mere animals that are either productive or unproductive to the state.

Planned Parenthood is somewhat of that farm of pregnant women our society draws from for this type of research now. Granted they don't fertilize women at PP but you get my point. Now with all this being said, I have no problem using 'fetus stem cells' for research as long as these 'fetus stem cells' are from situations where death has occurred naturally by nature(miscarriage-mid to late term) or accidental where the mother/baby die from an accident or just the baby dies from that accident. I have no problem with that whatsoever. BUT to use 'fetus stem cells' from a conscious women who terminates(murders) a life out of selfish inconvenience which is 99.5% of all abortions is wrong.

The whole rape/incest and some people shouldn't be parents argument is just absolutely weak. How many women that walk through PP's doors are pregnant from rape/incest ? I bet the 'real numbers' are miniscule. Say you knew you were adopted and were a pillar of the community and became a huge success in life and later on you found out you were a result of a rape and your raped mother decided to put you up for adoption. Aren't you glad your adopted mother didn't snuff you out in shame but rather she allowed your God given rights to life through adoption? Or the incest kids, why can't they be given up for adoption if the original mother can't live with this child. There ARE better alternatives than so-called justified murder.

Yeah, I know what some of you are thinking, sure Chiefshrink it is easy talk this way until your own daughter gets raped and impregnated. No, of course it would not be easy to see my daughter go through this horrific situation. BUT I can't tell you all the severe permanent emotional damage and carnage I see in my office from women who chose the "so-called quiet easy way out, they thought". If my daughter were of adult age she would make that choice herself and I would definitely consult her, but the decision is hers to make and would support her regardless. If she were a minor then we would raise the child in love because 1/2 that child is my daughter's, my wife's and my own flesh and blood and those are the values our family lives by. No, initially it would not be easy. BUT I do know that Jesus's love conquers ALL and when you love with the eyes and heart of Jesus and do the right thing, you are able to experience a joy and peace that passes all understanding and not to mention you are able to sleep at night peacefully.
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Old 12-22-2012, 10:22 PM   #41
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There are two types of stem cells.

ALL currently successful stem cell research, such as the story in the OP, is coming from adult stem cells.

The type of stem cell religious folks have a problem with, embryonic stem cells, CAN come from aborted fetuses. They can also come from placental/umbilical tissue. However, embryonic stem cells, to date, have shown almost zero promise.
thank you As I have stated b4 in this thread
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Old 12-22-2012, 10:24 PM   #42
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thank you As I have stated b4 in this thread
Well we don't exactly agree on all of it.

For me it has nothing to do with abortion, or religion.

I am opposed to government funding of embryonic stem cell research because its an enormous waste of money.
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No shit . Only a complete idiot would oppose it.

Que the complete idiots from DC in 3..2..1..
The irony is that if it got thrown to DC, it would have been moved there due to the religious rantings of someone who can't go to DC.

By chiefshrink being himself he can actually make a more meaningful contribution to this thread. First time ever.
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So for some of you who use this term thinking you are describing a non-human piece of flesh in a woman's tummy, you may want to find another term.
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Nah, you should stop trying to censor my free speech especially when it has everything to do with OP.
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