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Old 12-25-2012, 02:23 PM  
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Polian and Dungy to be new GM and HC?

http://kcsportsnation.com/2012/12/br...h-source-says/



Merry Christmas Chiefs fans, from Clark Hunt.

Well, maybe.

According to a good source inside Arrowhead that has seen Bill Polian with Clark Hunt with his “own eyes,” if Polian wants the Chiefs General Manager job, it is his. Polian, the former GM of the Indianapolis Colts, would bring his long-time coach Tony Dungy back to KC as the head coach and his son Chris would be the VP and take over when Bill retires.





The source also indicates that MOST of the current staff has already cleaned out their offices and three assistant coaches have been told not to make the trip to Denver and that Norv Turner will be the offensive coordinator and Dom Capers the new defensive coordinator. Now, for these two, I’m a bit more skeptical. Turner is currently the head coach at San Diego, and although he is expected to be fired, his committal to a lesser job right off the bat is questionable at best. That said, the ship on him being a head coach has sailed. Capers, is the current defensive coordinator for the Packers, a team that will be a Super Bowl contender every year for the foreseeable future, so why would he leave? $$$? Capers’ name is also out there as a potential head coach if Dungy elects to stay retired, which would be a God awful hire. He is 48-80 in eight years as a head coach at Carolina and Houston, where he made the playoffs once, advancing to the NFC Championship game at Carolina in 1996 after winning the NFC West.

The source is a good source, but like anything else, Polian may or may not accept the job, and the same goes for Dungy.

But, if this does come to fruition, wow. Another Festivus Miracle!

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Dungy was a defensive backs coach in KC under Marty Shottenheimer from 1989-91, before moving on to Minnesota to be the defensive coordinator under Dennis Green before turning around the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, then the Colts. Dungy has been out of coaching since 2009.

Polian was the General Manager in Buffalo from 1986-1993, where he took over a team that was coming off back-to-back 2-14 seasons. Polian won the NFL Executive of the Year Award twice in 1988 and in 1991.He was fired following three straight Super Bowl losses. Two seasons later, he was the GM of the Carolina Panthers for four seasons through 2007, where Capers was his head coach. He then moved on to Indianapolis, where he was President and eventually Chris was the GM. Polian was fired by owner Jim Irsay after the Colts finished with a 2–14 record in the 2011-2012 season, where Peyton Manning missed the season with injury, which begs the question, were Dungy and Polian as good as their QB was?

Stay tuned.
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Old 12-26-2012, 10:13 AM   #166
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Dungy? No ****ing thank you.

What the hell is wrong with some Chiefs fans that they're trying to justify what would truly be a terrible hire?
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Old 12-26-2012, 10:42 AM   #167
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So again, what are the positives?
Same positives as hiring Reid or cowher. You get a guy who is going to build a top notch football team who will be in a super bowl hunt every year.

For the record, I don't want to hire the guy because the downside is you get a very talented, well coached football team who can't win at the next level. Same downside as Reid and to some extent cowher.
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Old 12-26-2012, 10:49 AM   #168
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Same positives as hiring Reid or cowher. You get a guy who is going to build a top notch football team who will be in a super bowl hunt every year.

For the record, I don't want to hire the guy because the downside is you get a very talented, well coached football team who can't win at the next level. Same downside as Reid and to some extent cowher.
That was exactly my point.

I'd prefer to have a guy with SOLID Super Bowl upside.

I'm not on board with recreating the 90s.
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Old 12-26-2012, 10:52 AM   #169
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Old 12-26-2012, 10:53 AM   #170
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That was exactly my point.

I'd prefer to have a guy with SOLID Super Bowl upside.

I'm not on board with recreating the 90s.
I find it interesting that despite this, a lot of people want cowher. Nevermind that his offensive philosophy has ALWAYS centered around a conservative offensive philosophy with a few gambles sprinkled in.
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Old 12-26-2012, 10:54 AM   #171
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I am convinced though that if it's Polian, then the QB is going to be Barkley.

I've heard Polian in a few spots and he constantly says how he loves QBs from a Pro Style offense, that were 4 year starters and come from a big school.

I wish Clark would be focusing on uncovering the next Carl Peterson that can turn this ship around like CP did in the late 80s instead of hiring some re-tread big name piece of shit that's going to come in with his chest stuck out and his ego inflated.
Just listen to that ****face on ESPN. He's arrogant as ****, and always tries to throw in a story of his old glory days into everything. I want to smack that smug look off his face every time I see him on TV. I want nothing to do with the guy. He's 70 and is just looking to get his kid a job. That's it, that's all.
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Old 12-26-2012, 10:57 AM   #172
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I find it interesting that despite this, a lot of people want cowher. Nevermind that his offensive philosophy has ALWAYS centered around a conservative offensive philosophy with a few gambles sprinkled in.
Because deep down people want Marty even though they also want a Super Bowl.

They feel like Cowher is Marty without the choke-in-the-playoffs aspect.
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Old 12-26-2012, 11:07 AM   #173
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Dungy? No ****ing thank you.

What the hell is wrong with some Chiefs fans that they're trying to justify what would truly be a terrible hire?
Not a single ****ing decent head coach has graced this team in such a long time that fans think that anywhere is up. "May as well turn to coaches who have won Super Bowls before"
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Old 12-26-2012, 11:07 AM   #174
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I don't know if this is the most inspired idea but we could do a lot worse. But I respect Dungy more than most people on here. He's not some master tactician or personnel guy but he did good work in both TB and Indy. TB was the joke of the league when he took over. He lets his coordinators and talent do their thing. CP always has an excuse for everything. Yeah they had Manning. Yeah he had Monte Kiffin too. Belichick has never won a title without Crennel, but that doesn't mean he's a defensive fraud. Most importantly, we'll probably have the #1 pick. If Geno is as good as everyone here says he'll be, we are set.

That said, if Polian's the guy... Polian is making that first pick. Not Dungy, not anyone else. Polian would probably be the one hire with a bigger ego than Pioli, but to his credit he has about about 25 years experience over Pioli actually calling the shots and doing it well.
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Old 12-26-2012, 12:06 PM   #175
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Old 12-26-2012, 07:18 PM   #176
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Polian's almost 70. Not interested.
Dungy's been away from the game too long.

No thanks to both.
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Because deep down people want Marty even though they also want a Super Bowl.

They feel like Cowher is Marty without the choke-in-the-playoffs aspect.
Marty was a great coach in the regular season. As others, myself included, have noted before, if your life depends upon one regular season win, I'm not sure there's a coach I'd rather have preparing that team than Marty.

The playoffs, though? Damn. If regular-season Marty was also post-season Marty, we're talking about one of the all-time greats, not just a good coach with a tragic flaw on his resume.
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Old 12-26-2012, 07:27 PM   #178
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Polian's almost 70. Not interested.
Dungy's been away from the game too long.

No thanks to both.
It depends on what you've done in that time away from the game. Gruden for example... is a retread candidate the intrigues me. He's been studying up on the spread and I bet comes back with an offense we're not expecting.
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Old 12-26-2012, 07:36 PM   #179
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It depends on what you've done in that time away from the game. Gruden for example... is a retread candidate the intrigues me. He's been studying up on the spread and I bet comes back with an offense we're not expecting.
There have been significant changes to the game in the time he's been away.
We already have a coach who the game has passed by.
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There have been significant changes to the game in the time he's been away.
We already have a coach who the game has passed by.
It all matters is if the coach can adapt to the times. There are some coaches who are so hardheaded that they refuse to adapt to the new game, but the NFL has been a passing league for about 10-12 years and both DUngy and Gruden know that and i think they could adapt.

I am not saying that i want them to coach the team, im just saying i think both of these guys can adapt, they now watch the NFL from a different point of view from what the fans see and see how much this game is about passing now days.

Whoever the coach will be ill get behind him for at least the first year. IN the end, i dont have any control over it.
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