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Old 12-25-2012, 02:23 PM  
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Polian and Dungy to be new GM and HC?

http://kcsportsnation.com/2012/12/br...h-source-says/



Merry Christmas Chiefs fans, from Clark Hunt.

Well, maybe.

According to a good source inside Arrowhead that has seen Bill Polian with Clark Hunt with his “own eyes,” if Polian wants the Chiefs General Manager job, it is his. Polian, the former GM of the Indianapolis Colts, would bring his long-time coach Tony Dungy back to KC as the head coach and his son Chris would be the VP and take over when Bill retires.





The source also indicates that MOST of the current staff has already cleaned out their offices and three assistant coaches have been told not to make the trip to Denver and that Norv Turner will be the offensive coordinator and Dom Capers the new defensive coordinator. Now, for these two, I’m a bit more skeptical. Turner is currently the head coach at San Diego, and although he is expected to be fired, his committal to a lesser job right off the bat is questionable at best. That said, the ship on him being a head coach has sailed. Capers, is the current defensive coordinator for the Packers, a team that will be a Super Bowl contender every year for the foreseeable future, so why would he leave? $$$? Capers’ name is also out there as a potential head coach if Dungy elects to stay retired, which would be a God awful hire. He is 48-80 in eight years as a head coach at Carolina and Houston, where he made the playoffs once, advancing to the NFC Championship game at Carolina in 1996 after winning the NFC West.

The source is a good source, but like anything else, Polian may or may not accept the job, and the same goes for Dungy.

But, if this does come to fruition, wow. Another Festivus Miracle!

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Dungy was a defensive backs coach in KC under Marty Shottenheimer from 1989-91, before moving on to Minnesota to be the defensive coordinator under Dennis Green before turning around the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, then the Colts. Dungy has been out of coaching since 2009.

Polian was the General Manager in Buffalo from 1986-1993, where he took over a team that was coming off back-to-back 2-14 seasons. Polian won the NFL Executive of the Year Award twice in 1988 and in 1991.He was fired following three straight Super Bowl losses. Two seasons later, he was the GM of the Carolina Panthers for four seasons through 2007, where Capers was his head coach. He then moved on to Indianapolis, where he was President and eventually Chris was the GM. Polian was fired by owner Jim Irsay after the Colts finished with a 2–14 record in the 2011-2012 season, where Peyton Manning missed the season with injury, which begs the question, were Dungy and Polian as good as their QB was?

Stay tuned.
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Old 12-26-2012, 07:43 PM   #181
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Old 12-26-2012, 07:45 PM   #182
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There have been significant changes to the game in the time he's been away.
We already have a coach who the game has passed by.
Being away from the game doesn't mean the game has passed you by. As long as you recognize it's changed and adapt. Vermeil did fine coming back. Shanahan did well coming back. If Gruden moves to more of a spread, he will too. Marty did too, if you count the fact that he still couldn't win the big game. Dungy's too smart a coach not to make a comeback and adjust his scheme. But again, like Marty, he's not going to win big games.
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Old 12-26-2012, 07:45 PM   #183
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Because deep down people want Marty even though they also want a Super Bowl.

They feel like Cowher is Marty without the choke-in-the-playoffs aspect.
Marty with a franchise QB like Montana was good times. And that quarterback is in our grasp.
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Old 12-26-2012, 07:58 PM   #184
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It all matters is if the coach can adapt to the times. There are some coaches who are so hardheaded that they refuse to adapt to the new game, but the NFL has been a passing league for about 10-12 years and both DUngy and Gruden know that and i think they could adapt.

I am not saying that i want them to coach the team, im just saying i think both of these guys can adapt, they now watch the NFL from a different point of view from what the fans see and see how much this game is about passing now days.

Whoever the coach will be ill get behind him for at least the first year. IN the end, i dont have any control over it.
Dungy's pushing 60. He's been around the NFL a long time. Guys like him are rarely open to the winds of change in the league. I doubt seriously he'll have a fresh take on the game. I will say this though...If memory serves, he's never really been a meddlesome coach who had to have his hands in everything. So with bright young coordinators...maybe he'd be okay?
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Old 12-26-2012, 08:00 PM   #185
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Being away from the game doesn't mean the game has passed you by. As long as you recognize it's changed and adapt. Vermeil did fine coming back. Shanahan did well coming back. If Gruden moves to more of a spread, he will too. Marty did too, if you count the fact that he still couldn't win the big game. Dungy's too smart a coach not to make a comeback and adjust his scheme. But again, like Marty, he's not going to win big games.
Vermeil was only away two years. And I think comparatively, the league changed a lot less over that stretch. Dungy's been gone for four.
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Old 12-26-2012, 08:01 PM   #186
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Old 12-26-2012, 08:02 PM   #187
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Old 12-26-2012, 09:06 PM   #188
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Dungy wouldn't even be in the top ten coaches I'd want.

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Old 12-26-2012, 09:13 PM   #189
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Old 12-26-2012, 09:26 PM   #191
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Why is Cowher a better coach than Dungy... Because he scowls?
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Old 12-26-2012, 09:28 PM   #192
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I'd hate to see the #1 overall pick get his bell rung for the first 2-4 years because he's in the hands of a horrible coaching staff; this is an extremely important pick coming up, it's going to be combined with a new staff off the heels of a terrible, terrible year. Ownership is in deep with fans, as bad as it has been in what, 25 years? Everything must go the right way or shit's going to explode immediately.
We can plant good seeds like Washington, Seattle and others, drafting good young talent or we can look like Arizona, Cincy, Oakland over the years when shitty coaching staffs selected talent at the top and ruined them, or just drafted shit and made it worse.
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Old 12-26-2012, 09:30 PM   #193
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I'd hate to see the #1 overall pick get his bell rung for the first 2-4 years because he's in the hands of a horrible coaching staff; this is an extremely important pick coming up, it's going to be combined with a new staff off the heels of a terrible, terrible year. Ownership is in deep with fans, as bad as it has been in what, 25 years? Everything must go the right way or shit's going to explode immediately.
We can plant good seeds like Washington, Seattle and others, drafting good young talent or we can look like Arizona, Cincy, Oakland over the years when shitty coaching staffs selected talent at the top and ruined them, or just drafted shit and made it worse.
Yeah I think a good example is picturing what RG3 or Wilson would have done with our coaching staff this year.
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