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Old 12-25-2012, 02:23 PM  
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Polian and Dungy to be new GM and HC?

http://kcsportsnation.com/2012/12/br...h-source-says/



Merry Christmas Chiefs fans, from Clark Hunt.

Well, maybe.

According to a good source inside Arrowhead that has seen Bill Polian with Clark Hunt with his “own eyes,” if Polian wants the Chiefs General Manager job, it is his. Polian, the former GM of the Indianapolis Colts, would bring his long-time coach Tony Dungy back to KC as the head coach and his son Chris would be the VP and take over when Bill retires.





The source also indicates that MOST of the current staff has already cleaned out their offices and three assistant coaches have been told not to make the trip to Denver and that Norv Turner will be the offensive coordinator and Dom Capers the new defensive coordinator. Now, for these two, I’m a bit more skeptical. Turner is currently the head coach at San Diego, and although he is expected to be fired, his committal to a lesser job right off the bat is questionable at best. That said, the ship on him being a head coach has sailed. Capers, is the current defensive coordinator for the Packers, a team that will be a Super Bowl contender every year for the foreseeable future, so why would he leave? $$$? Capers’ name is also out there as a potential head coach if Dungy elects to stay retired, which would be a God awful hire. He is 48-80 in eight years as a head coach at Carolina and Houston, where he made the playoffs once, advancing to the NFC Championship game at Carolina in 1996 after winning the NFC West.

The source is a good source, but like anything else, Polian may or may not accept the job, and the same goes for Dungy.

But, if this does come to fruition, wow. Another Festivus Miracle!

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Dungy was a defensive backs coach in KC under Marty Shottenheimer from 1989-91, before moving on to Minnesota to be the defensive coordinator under Dennis Green before turning around the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, then the Colts. Dungy has been out of coaching since 2009.

Polian was the General Manager in Buffalo from 1986-1993, where he took over a team that was coming off back-to-back 2-14 seasons. Polian won the NFL Executive of the Year Award twice in 1988 and in 1991.He was fired following three straight Super Bowl losses. Two seasons later, he was the GM of the Carolina Panthers for four seasons through 2007, where Capers was his head coach. He then moved on to Indianapolis, where he was President and eventually Chris was the GM. Polian was fired by owner Jim Irsay after the Colts finished with a 2–14 record in the 2011-2012 season, where Peyton Manning missed the season with injury, which begs the question, were Dungy and Polian as good as their QB was?

Stay tuned.
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Old 12-25-2012, 05:21 PM   #76
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Polian and Dungy?

**** me in the ass with a rusty rod.
Right there with you.

Hey, life sucks, imagination is better.

I'd argue that's the whole basis of Christmas.

So...



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Old 12-25-2012, 05:24 PM   #77
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Dungy is a good enough game manager, he led a pass heavy offense in Indy, and he can actually coach up players whereas herm was a defensive backs coach who leaped to head coach.

The only comparison is that they both run an obsolete defense and are generally conservative. Comparing him to herm, who was a pure motivator, is ridiculous.

I don't want dungy. But honestly, it's baffling to me that the same people who rip on dungy want cowher. To me, dungy is a lot more cowher than he is herm.
Dungy had exactly the same kind of team in Tampa Bay that Herman ****ing Edwards had in New York.

The only real difference between Dungy and Herman ****ing Edwards is Peyton Manning.

If Dungy were a real ****ing coach, he'd have won more than one SB with Manning.
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Old 12-25-2012, 05:31 PM   #78
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Dungy had exactly the same kind of team in Tampa Bay that Herman ****ing Edwards had in New York.

The only real difference between Dungy and Herman ****ing Edwards is Peyton Manning.

If Dungy were a real ****ing coach, he'd have won more than one SB with Manning.
They were both great coaches at what they did promoted above their level of...**** it....you know the rest.
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Old 12-25-2012, 05:35 PM   #79
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Tony Dungy retired at the peak of Peyton's career. He's not coaching in the NFL, if ever again.
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Old 12-25-2012, 05:43 PM   #81
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Dungy had exactly the same kind of team in Tampa Bay that Herman ****ing Edwards had in New York.

The only real difference between Dungy and Herman ****ing Edwards is Peyton Manning.

If Dungy were a real ****ing coach, he'd have won more than one SB with Manning.
Bullshit. Tony dungy had an elite defense behind an unbelievably shitty qb. Herms team relied heavily on Pennington. Behind even an average qb, dungys team probably would have won a few playoff games, even if I believe his Marty ball philosophy would have kept Tampa from the super bowl.

In Indy... Why did the colts fail in the playoffs? Was it poor game planning? Poor game management? Or was it Peyton playing uncharacteristically bad football, especially against the patriots?

Dungy isn't herm. He is cowher and Marty, smart coaches who can coach up a terrific football team that can't find a way to win big games.
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Old 12-25-2012, 06:00 PM   #83
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In Tampa, Dungy had Sapp, Derrick Brooks, John Lynch, Barber, Hardy Nickerson and some other really good defenders. His offense was crap hence why he didn't win 2 or 3 superbowls with that team.
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Bullshit. Tony dungy had an elite defense behind an unbelievably shitty qb. Herms team relied heavily on Pennington. Behind even an average qb, dungys team probably would have won a few playoff games, even if I believe his Marty ball philosophy would have kept Tampa from the super bowl.

In Indy... Why did the colts fail in the playoffs? Was it poor game planning? Poor game management? Or was it Peyton playing uncharacteristically bad football, especially against the patriots?

Dungy isn't herm. He is cowher and Marty, smart coaches who can coach up a terrific football team that can't find a way to win big games.
Tony Dungy built his reputation on the talent that others provided for him.

He had an elite defense in Tampa because he had elite talent.

He did nothing with his soft ass coaching style.
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In Tampa, Dungy had Sapp, Derrick Brooks, John Lynch, Barber, Hardy Nickerson and some other really good defenders. His offense was crap hence why he didn't win 2 or 3 superbowls with that team.
And he doesn't get any credit for coaching any of that up? Unlike herm, dungy has an unbelievably impressive coaching resume. He's terrific at coaching up players. In Indy, he wasn't given nearly as much to work with and, to his discredit, ran a traditional tampa 2 a few years past it's expiration date.

Whats intriguing is, I think dungy is smart enough to work with what he's got. He has experience running a 3-4. It wouldn't surprise me if he went back to his roots. This place gets way too critical of people they don't like. Dungy will coach up a terrific team, but they will probably find ways to lose in playoff games. Marty, for example, really adjusted his offense in San Diego but still kept losing big games. Again, dungy is not herm 2.0, he is Marty 2.0.
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Tony Dungy built his reputation on the talent that others provided for him.

He had an elite defense in Tampa because he had elite talent.

He did nothing with his soft ass coaching style.
Exactly.

He's underachieved everywhere he's been...
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Tony Dungy built his reputation on the talent that others provided for him.

He had an elite defense in Tampa because he had elite talent.

He did nothing with his soft ass coaching style.
I'm going to disagree with that to an extent. Sapp, Brooks, Lynch and a couple of the other guys credit him with how good they became.
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And he doesn't get any credit for coaching any of that up? Unlike herm, dungy has an unbelievably impressive coaching resume. He's terrific at coaching up players. In Indy, he wasn't given nearly as much to work with and, to his discredit, ran a traditional tampa 2 a few years past it's expiration date.

Whats intriguing is, I think dungy is smart enough to work with what he's got. He has experience running a 3-4. It wouldn't surprise me if he went back to his roots. This place gets way too critical of people they don't like. Dungy will coach up a terrific team, but they will probably find ways to lose in playoff games. Marty, for example, really adjusted his offense in San Diego but still kept losing big games. Again, dungy is not herm 2.0, he is Marty 2.0.
I addressed that in this last post.
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polian could be the next guy, I can see that as possible. but dungy has been HC for two NFL teams, I doubt he wants to start that up again.

my gut tells me pioli/romeo will be here next year, unfortunately.
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