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Old 12-25-2012, 02:23 PM  
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Polian and Dungy to be new GM and HC?

http://kcsportsnation.com/2012/12/br...h-source-says/



Merry Christmas Chiefs fans, from Clark Hunt.

Well, maybe.

According to a good source inside Arrowhead that has seen Bill Polian with Clark Hunt with his “own eyes,” if Polian wants the Chiefs General Manager job, it is his. Polian, the former GM of the Indianapolis Colts, would bring his long-time coach Tony Dungy back to KC as the head coach and his son Chris would be the VP and take over when Bill retires.





The source also indicates that MOST of the current staff has already cleaned out their offices and three assistant coaches have been told not to make the trip to Denver and that Norv Turner will be the offensive coordinator and Dom Capers the new defensive coordinator. Now, for these two, I’m a bit more skeptical. Turner is currently the head coach at San Diego, and although he is expected to be fired, his committal to a lesser job right off the bat is questionable at best. That said, the ship on him being a head coach has sailed. Capers, is the current defensive coordinator for the Packers, a team that will be a Super Bowl contender every year for the foreseeable future, so why would he leave? $$$? Capers’ name is also out there as a potential head coach if Dungy elects to stay retired, which would be a God awful hire. He is 48-80 in eight years as a head coach at Carolina and Houston, where he made the playoffs once, advancing to the NFC Championship game at Carolina in 1996 after winning the NFC West.

The source is a good source, but like anything else, Polian may or may not accept the job, and the same goes for Dungy.

But, if this does come to fruition, wow. Another Festivus Miracle!

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Dungy was a defensive backs coach in KC under Marty Shottenheimer from 1989-91, before moving on to Minnesota to be the defensive coordinator under Dennis Green before turning around the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, then the Colts. Dungy has been out of coaching since 2009.

Polian was the General Manager in Buffalo from 1986-1993, where he took over a team that was coming off back-to-back 2-14 seasons. Polian won the NFL Executive of the Year Award twice in 1988 and in 1991.He was fired following three straight Super Bowl losses. Two seasons later, he was the GM of the Carolina Panthers for four seasons through 2007, where Capers was his head coach. He then moved on to Indianapolis, where he was President and eventually Chris was the GM. Polian was fired by owner Jim Irsay after the Colts finished with a 2–14 record in the 2011-2012 season, where Peyton Manning missed the season with injury, which begs the question, were Dungy and Polian as good as their QB was?

Stay tuned.
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Old 12-25-2012, 06:09 PM   #91
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I'm going to disagree with that to an extent. Sapp, Brooks, Lynch and a couple of the other guys credit him with ho good they became.
I take the words of players with a grain of salt.

These Chiefs players just love Romeo Crennel.
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Old 12-25-2012, 06:12 PM   #92
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I take the words of players with a grain of salt.

These Chiefs players just love Romeo Crennel.
Take it for what you want to.. but they give him credit for how good they became. He should have won 2 or 3 superbowls with that defense though.
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Old 12-25-2012, 06:14 PM   #93
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Tony Dungy built his reputation on the talent that others provided for him.

He had an elite defense in Tampa because he had elite talent.

He did nothing with his soft ass coaching style.
We've seen the way a coach like Romeo and Rex Ryan and mike singletary can lose a football team. Dungy has coached very solid football teams for thirteen years. And you act like his teams played soft, or that they played undisciplined, unfocused football.

What do you attribute their constant playoff losses in Indy and Tampa to? It wasn't a soft team behind a fumbling coach. It was more Marty like the way he lost games.
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Old 12-25-2012, 06:18 PM   #94
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We've seen the way a coach like Romeo and Rex Ryan and mike singletary can lose a football team. Dungy has coached very solid football teams for thirteen years. And you act like his teams played soft, or that they played undisciplined, unfocused football.

What do you attribute their constant playoff losses in Indy and Tampa to? It wasn't a soft team behind a fumbling coach. It was more Marty like the way he lost games.
I attribute the losses to the fact that he allowed Manning to run things on the field, and he and the staff didn't adjust to defenses that got pressure on Manning.

The one SB win was when Manning was playing terribly, and he adjusted to get the running game involved.
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Old 12-25-2012, 06:19 PM   #95
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Dungy's offenses were near the bottom of the league in Tampa Bay every season. No ranking higher than 21st.

We all know what happened in Indy was 100 percent Manning, so get that shit out of here.

He's a bad fit for any team in this day and age.
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Old 12-25-2012, 06:20 PM   #96
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The one thing that Hootie has said through the years in our debates on Manning that I absolutely agree with is that Peyton Manning was the defacto HC of those Colts teams.

Tony Dungy was just a figurehead.
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Old 12-25-2012, 06:22 PM   #97
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Dungy isn't coming back. He could give it a go in today's game but more as a DC.
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Old 12-25-2012, 06:22 PM   #98
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Every coach that had a HoF QB looks good. Take away that QB and you see mediocrity.

Take Brady away and there would be no "Patriot Way"

Without Brady, every Bellichick disciple has failed.

Manning made Dungy/Polian look good.
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Old 12-25-2012, 06:23 PM   #99
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We've seen the way a coach like Romeo and Rex Ryan and mike singletary can lose a football team. Dungy has coached very solid football teams for thirteen years. And you act like his teams played soft, or that they played undisciplined, unfocused football.

What do you attribute their constant playoff losses in Indy and Tampa to? It wasn't a soft team behind a fumbling coach. It was more Marty like the way he lost games.
Dungy isn't a disaster like Crennel, but he is nothing more than an average at best NFL coach. What value did he provide at Indy other than a stable hand? His supposed clame-to-fame, defense, was the big weakness in Indy. John Fox appears to be doing more with an aging Manning than Dungy did in Manning's prime.
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Old 12-25-2012, 06:23 PM   #100
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http://kcsportsnation.com/2012/12/br...h-source-says/



Merry Christmas Chiefs fans, from Clark Hunt.

Well, maybe.

According to a good source inside Arrowhead that has seen Bill Polian with Clark Hunt with his “own eyes,” if Polian wants the Chiefs General Manager job, it is his. Polian, the former GM of the Indianapolis Colts, would bring his long-time coach Tony Dungy back to KC as the head coach and his son Chris would be the VP and take over when Bill retires.





The source also indicates that MOST of the current staff has already cleaned out their offices and three assistant coaches have been told not to make the trip to Denver and that Norv Turner will be the offensive coordinator and Dom Capers the new defensive coordinator. Now, for these two, I’m a bit more skeptical. Turner is currently the head coach at San Diego, and although he is expected to be fired, his committal to a lesser job right off the bat is questionable at best. That said, the ship on him being a head coach has sailed. Capers, is the current defensive coordinator for the Packers, a team that will be a Super Bowl contender every year for the foreseeable future, so why would he leave? $$$? Capers’ name is also out there as a potential head coach if Dungy elects to stay retired, which would be a God awful hire. He is 48-80 in eight years as a head coach at Carolina and Houston, where he made the playoffs once, advancing to the NFC Championship game at Carolina in 1996 after winning the NFC West.

The source is a good source, but like anything else, Polian may or may not accept the job, and the same goes for Dungy.

But, if this does come to fruition, wow. Another Festivus Miracle!

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Dungy was a defensive backs coach in KC under Marty Shottenheimer from 1989-91, before moving on to Minnesota to be the defensive coordinator under Dennis Green before turning around the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, then the Colts. Dungy has been out of coaching since 2009.

Polian was the General Manager in Buffalo from 1986-1993, where he took over a team that was coming off back-to-back 2-14 seasons. Polian won the NFL Executive of the Year Award twice in 1988 and in 1991.He was fired following three straight Super Bowl losses. Two seasons later, he was the GM of the Carolina Panthers for four seasons through 2007, where Capers was his head coach. He then moved on to Indianapolis, where he was President and eventually Chris was the GM. Polian was fired by owner Jim Irsay after the Colts finished with a 2–14 record in the 2011-2012 season, where Peyton Manning missed the season with injury, which begs the question, were Dungy and Polian as good as their QB was?

Stay tuned.
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Old 12-25-2012, 06:26 PM   #101
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I attribute the losses to the fact that he allowed Manning to run things on the field, and he and the staff didn't adjust to defenses that got pressure on Manning.

The one SB win was when Manning was playing terribly, and he adjusted to get the running game involved.
This is a fair statement. But that's a little unfair to pin that on dungy. Tom Moore deserves a lot of that blame. And you simply cannot have Peyton on your team unless you let him run the show. We saw that in his Peyton tour how he demands control, even on personnel.

Fair points. But again, this doesn't make him herm.
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Old 12-25-2012, 06:28 PM   #102
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The Polian part I believe. The rest....not so much.
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Old 12-25-2012, 06:28 PM   #103
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Whatever, Herm could have won a Super Bowl with Manning
Assuming he allowed Manning to call his own plays and manage the clock.
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Old 12-25-2012, 06:29 PM   #104
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Polian and Dungy? No, thank you. Please spin the wheel again.

I'm not hugely against Polian, but he's a retread and I don't want a retread. Dungy? No.
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Oh my, if the source was creditable,I could go with Polian & Dungy, even though Dungy has stated over and over he was done. Even as much as I want neither of them in KC with the Chiefs!

But to bring Capers along as a lateral move is laughable, it's a lateral move that has to met by the NFL office and agreed by GB if he has any time left on his contract. To lazy to look this one up if he has time left with GB or it's up.

Norv Turner is not Peyton Manning on the field, I do not see Dungy turning the ball game on offense over without a PM type QB on the field, even if you are Norv Turner. Norv is not gone yet from SD, all likely hood he is, but why would he want KC right out of the gate, only reason to get SD twice a year.Too soon for him to have sentimental reasons when he is still the HC of SD.

I call this article nothing but a rumor with no substance.
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