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Old 12-29-2012, 03:55 PM  
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"Not "Worth" The #1 Pick???

I have heard soooo many columnists and "experts" comment about the fact that there really isnt a QB "worth" the #1 pick.

What a bunch of horse crap. In the old CBA, when you had to pay the #1 pick $60-$70 million, I could understand this arguement and could agree with that. But in today's CBA, you dont dish that much out.

Andrew Luck's contract was for $22.1 million over 4 years. Yes, they had to pay $14.5 million in a signing bonus but so what?! In 2010, the Rams paid Sam Bradford a 6 year, $78 Million dollar contract with $50 Million GUARANTEED! Thats $13 million PER YEAR vs. Luck's $5.525 Million per year.

So even if Smith or whomever isnt the true Best Player available, I really dont think that in a situation like ours, where QB is such an obvious position of need, that $22 million for the #1 pick is really as big of a "reach" as we are led to believe by the experts.

To give you a comparison to Luck's #1 pick contract from 2012 at $22M, in 2010, this would be equivalent to the contract given to the #12 pick in the 2010 draft, Ryan Matthews in SD for $25.65M over 5 years.

Heck, I say draft a QB in Rounds 1, 2 & 3! Give us some frikken QB competition!

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Old 12-29-2012, 03:57 PM   #2
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Old 12-29-2012, 03:58 PM   #3
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Old 12-29-2012, 04:00 PM   #4
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Old 12-29-2012, 04:02 PM   #5
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If you could trade the #1 pick for multiple picks and still get your QB, what's the harm?
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Old 12-29-2012, 04:04 PM   #6
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I saw one draft that said Geno Smith isnt worth #1, but then had him going at #6 saying "you cant pass up value like that at #6". Is 6 to 1 that much of a "reach"?

They are just finding things to say at this point. Its four months away for christs sake.
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Old 12-29-2012, 04:04 PM   #7
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This only further goes in line with my argument. As the #1 pick in his draft (2005), Smith received a 6 year, $49.5 million dollar contract with $24 million guaranteed.

If we draft Geno Smith at #1, he wouldn't get a contract even close to that.
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Old 12-29-2012, 04:05 PM   #8
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If you could trade the #1 pick for multiple picks and still get your QB, what's the harm?
I agree... but if you can't, then I have absolutely no issues with them taking him as a "reach" at #1.
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Old 12-29-2012, 04:05 PM   #9
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If you could trade the #1 pick for multiple picks and still get your QB, what's the harm?
But who's going to give up picks to get to #1 this year? There isn't a dominant player that teams can't do without. Just a bad year to have the top pick both from a pick yourself and a trade the pick standpoint.
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Old 12-29-2012, 04:06 PM   #10
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If you could trade the #1 pick for multiple picks and still get your QB, what's the harm?
Because they will **** it up. Determine the best QB available and take him. **** draft value.
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Old 12-29-2012, 04:06 PM   #11
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If you could trade the #1 pick for multiple picks and still get your QB, what's the harm?
Understandable point, but why would any team trade up? What player in this draft is worth trading up to #1 for?
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Old 12-29-2012, 04:07 PM   #12
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I saw one draft that said Geno Smith isnt worth #1, but then had him going at #6 saying "you cant pass up value like that at #6". Is 6 to 1 that much of a "reach"?

They are just finding things to say at this point. Its four months away for christs sake.
He's not worth #1 but he is "VALUE" at #6?

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Old 12-29-2012, 04:10 PM   #13
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Understandable point, but why would any team trade up? What player in this draft is worth trading up to #1 for?
Detroit move up to take the best DE/OLB?
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Old 12-29-2012, 04:15 PM   #14
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Detroit move up to take the best DE/OLB?
Its possible. There is almost a certitude that one of either Moore, Jones, or Werner will be there when the Lions pick. But if they really, really, really loved one of those guys in particular then they might offer the Chiefs some picks.

It'd be a little like the Chiefs trading up from 5 to 1 to draft Eric Berry though.
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