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Old 12-27-2012, 11:03 AM  
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Today 12/27 Mel Kiper says.......

Mel says Mike Glennon will be the first QB taken in the 2013 draft and he could be picked in the top 10. He says alot of things could and will change as the draft approaches but as of right now he thinks the Chiefs should trade out of the top spot if they can and if they can't they should take Luke Joeckel with the first pick. He also say the Jaguars should trade down also but if they can't they should take a DE with their first pick.
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Old 12-27-2012, 02:57 PM   #136
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Old 12-27-2012, 03:00 PM   #137
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What wins in this league is talent and yes, you can measure talent.
Exactly why the majority of fans should have been reaching for torches and pitchforks when Pioli spouted one of his first cliches: "We're looking for the right 53, not the best 53."

What a line of ****ing horse shit, and he's been exposed terribly because of his belief in this farce.

Keep the "right 53," Scott, and I'll take the best 53 and beat your ****ing ass every single Sunday.

I'm hopeful that the Pioli failure has caused us, collectively, to wise up; great teams need sizzle.
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Old 12-27-2012, 03:01 PM   #138
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Still think Teo's going to be the pick. That guy just looks like a Chief.
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Old 12-27-2012, 03:03 PM   #139
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RB's in that Broncos running scheme are/were expendable...they were churning out 1,000 yd backs like it was nothing after TD. Broncos would have been fine and IMO still would have made the SB.
Eh, not really.

Sure, they still turned out 1,000 yd backs, but not 1,700 and 2k yard backs like Davis was putting out there. I mean you're talking about the difference between a decent runningback (say Ahmad Bradshaw) and a great one (like AP).

They would've still had a decent running game, but not an elite one. With a declining Elway and without Davis at the absolute apex of his game (again, we're talking about almost 1,900 yds/season in those 2 SB years), I don't think that team wins a SB.

And in either event, if you think it was the Denver system that won them the SB, then is John Elway now a system QB? Regardless of how they got it, they do not win a SB without that running game.

It wasn't that Elway suddenly learned to be a leader, it was that he was given the tools to win and was able to do so in the twilight of his career.

Leadership is an after-acquired trait. We put the label on people after they win. Which tells me that it's largely mythical.
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Old 12-27-2012, 03:04 PM   #140
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Gonna be hilarious when Geno destroys the combine, personal workouts, interviews, etc. and then all the "experts" will be on his nuts once again talking about how he was the #1 overall guy all along.

Kudos to Scott Wright, who has had Geno consistently at the top of his boards and has us taking him in his latest mock.

This is such an easy selection for me...will be even more so come April.
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Old 12-27-2012, 03:04 PM   #141
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Houston, Teo, DJ, Hali

That will be a great linebacking corp next year
Yeah and they'll still be 2-14.

Looks like a Chief? What the **** does that mean?
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Old 12-27-2012, 03:07 PM   #142
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Yeah and they'll still be 2-14.

Looks like a Chief? What the **** does that mean?
It means he'll look great futilely chasing a TE.
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Old 12-27-2012, 03:08 PM   #143
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Gonna be hilarious when Geno destroys the combine, personal workouts, interviews, etc. and then all the "experts" will be on his nuts once again talking about how he was the #1 overall guy all along.

Kudos to Scott Wright, who has had Geno consistently at the top of his boards and has us taking him in his latest mock.

This is such an easy selection for me...will be even more so come April.
I'm a Geno fan and I think he could be The Guy for sure...

...but if he tanks, this place is gonna be an all-you-can-eat crow buffet.
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Old 12-27-2012, 03:08 PM   #144
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Yeah and they'll still be 2-14.

Looks like a Chief? What the **** does that mean?
Like an Islander Chief. HMMM RACIST MUCH
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Old 12-27-2012, 03:09 PM   #145
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Geno Smith is already ahead of him and his football IQ will likely shine at the workouts too.

Wilson is going to have a hard time passing Smith. Not that he couldn't - just gonna be difficult.
If/when Wilson looks great at the Senior Bowl next month, he will pass Geno Smith, especially if Geno decides not to go.

The guy had 21 TD's, 13 INT's and a 62% comp percentage with an OL that got him killed, no running game and only one good WR who even dropped several balls this year.

Wilson will show his true talent when he has a level playing field.
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Old 12-27-2012, 03:10 PM   #146
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Exactly why the majority of fans should have been reaching for torches and pitchforks when Pioli spouted one of his first cliches: "We're looking for the right 53, not the best 53."

What a line of ****ing horse shit, and he's been exposed terribly because of his belief in this farce.

Keep the "right 53," Scott, and I'll take the best 53 and beat your ****ing ass every single Sunday.

I'm hopeful that the Pioli failure has caused us, collectively, to wise up; great teams need sizzle.
Is Russell Wilson actually a shitty leader?

Afterall, when the team needs leadership most - road games - he's decidedly pedestrian. His Seahawks have a 3-5 road record. Is he less determined on the road? Does he show less heart? Of course not.

No, Wilson isn't a shitty leader. Nor do I think he's ****ing General Patton out there. He reaches the threshhold level of leadership ability required to be a productive NFL quarterback. He's in that nice comfortable area between Montana and Cassel where you separate yourself on your talent. He has more talent than I thought because I was lazy and didn't watch him play enough last year. My bad.

Stop drafting for leadership. Make sure your board is full of guys that rise above a Ryan Leaf level of ****off and actually care about football (which you can see by their play on the field), and select the one off that list with the most talent.

It's not that hard to spot if you're willing to do the work to see it. Kiper doesn't do that anymore.
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Old 12-27-2012, 03:11 PM   #147
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I'm a Geno fan and I think he could be The Guy for sure...

...but if he tanks, this place is gonna be an all-you-can-eat crow buffet.
No it won't.

It's a risk worth taking. And if he fails, you dust yourself off and take the best one where you pick 2-3 years down the road.
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Old 12-27-2012, 03:13 PM   #148
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If/when Wilson looks great at the Senior Bowl next month, he will pass Geno Smith, especially if Geno decides not to go.

The guy had 21 TD's, 13 INT's and a 62% comp percentage with an OL that got him killed, no running game and only one good WR who even dropped several balls this year.

Wilson will show his true talent when he has a level playing field.
There you go, good job son.

I'll give Wilson the chance to change my mind - but it doesn't seem that likely. If he does it, it'll be because of his talent and not some bullshit, fairytale, lazy-ass psychoanalysis like "he has the heart of a champion."

Wilson could turn me against my sweet babboo, there will be plenty of game tape online to look at between now and the draft, but I'll be looking at his feet in the face of the rush, his decisionmaking under pressure and his ability to throw under duress and through forced mechanics, not how well he slapped his lineman on the ass in the huddle.
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Old 12-27-2012, 03:16 PM   #149
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Get that shit out of here - leadership is a litmus test, not a driving factor. What wins in this league is talent and yes, you can measure talent. Russell Wilson doesn't win because of "heart" or "determination", he wins because he's a foolishly great athlete with great instincts and sense for the position. I underestimated his potential because of his size and accuracy concerns - I clearly didn't do enough homework.
Russell Wilson's leadership does more than help them win. He went to Wisconsin and called a team meeting and said "I'm here to win and **** you if you don't want to follow my lead". And then what did he do? He did the same thing in Seattle. He's a 5'11" midget who towers over everybody in the locker room because of his leadership. They follow him and believe in him.

That's the difference between Russell Wilson and clowns like Matt Stafford and Jay Cutler. I don't give a **** if they can throw the ball a mile or if they are built like an ox.

I'll take a QB who has good but not great physical attributes with incredible intangibles over a QB who has incredible physical attributes and questionable intangles any day.
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