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Old 12-30-2012, 03:59 PM  
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Media Quiet About San Antonio Theater Shooting

On Sunday December 17, 2012, 2 days after the CT shooting, a man went to a restaurant in San Antonio to kill his X-girlfriend. After he shot her, most of the people in the restaurant fled next door to a theater. The gunman followed them and entered the theater so he could shoot more people. He started shooting and people in the theater started running and screaming. It’s like the Aurora, CO theater story plus a restaurant!

Now aren’t you wondering why this isn’t a lead story in the national media along with the school shooting?

There was an off duty county deputy at the theater. SHE pulled out her gun and shot the man 4 times before he had a chance to kill anyone. So since this story makes the point that the best thing to stop a bad person with a gun is a good person with a gun, the media is treating it like it never happened.

Only the local media covered it. The city is giving her a medal next week. Just thought you’d like to know.

Agenda revealed! If you had any doubts that the media was pushing for this and who their masters were, doubt no longer. This is spooky. Alot of what you read in the ‘conspiracy world’ is bull but there IS alot of truth too.. You just have to sort out the facts yourself. -Mort

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Old 01-01-2013, 09:44 PM   #106
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I hope you guys understand that the 5.56 round destroys the body like a person trying to get out of a corn maze before it makes an exit wound.
Yep.

In the disturbing photos posted in the link above the bullet didn't even hit the bone. The shock shattered the bone.

The damage caused is a huge reason the Russians nearly copied the 5.56 as their standard ammo.
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Old 01-01-2013, 10:23 PM   #107
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"These" cases? I am unaware of a wave of mass-killing gunmen who kill themselves in the presence of a civilian who is armed, or who kill themselves prior to a gunfight altogether.
You are unaware that in nearly all of these mass shootings the shooters kill themselves to avoid the consequences (gunfight w police...or confrontation with police)?

What % of mass shooting perpetrators killed themselves before being apprehended?
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Old 01-02-2013, 12:22 AM   #108
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With a single exception, every multiple-victim public shooting in the U.S. in which more than three people have been killed since at least 1950 has taken place where citizens are not allowed to carry their own firearms.
The reporter must not have done his homework, because I can think of at least four or five off the top of my head. Charles Whitman opened fire on the campus of the U of Texas in Austin in 1966; guns were not only not forbidden there, but many college students have rifles in gun racks on campus. There was a guy in Alabama a few years ago who killed his family, then just drove down the street gunning people down. There was the guy who walked down the line of cars waiting to turn into the Pentagon, shooting and killing Pentagon workers. There was the guy in McDonald's. There was the guy in a cafeteria in Texas. If it weren't almost 1:30 in the morning I'd dig up more.

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Nor have I found a single example on record of a multiple-victim public shooting in which a permit holder accidentally shot a bystander.
But there was the incident a few months ago where the police shot a bunch of bystanders by accident in New York. Does that count?
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Old 01-02-2013, 12:37 AM   #109
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State Senator R.C. Soles (D - NC)
Long time Anti-Gun Advocate State Senator R.C. Soles, 74, shot one of two intruders at his home just outside Tabor City , N.C. about 5 p.m. Sunday, the prosecutor for the politician's home county said.

The intruder, Kyle Blackburn, was taken to a South Carolina hospital, but the injuries were not reported to be life-threatening, according to Rex Gore, district attorney for Columbus, Bladen andBrunswick counties..

The State Bureau of Investigation and Columbus County Sheriff's Department are investigating the shooting, Gore said. Soles, who was not arrested,declined to discuss the incident Sunday evening.

"I am not in a position to talk to you," Soles said by telephone. "I'm right in the middle of an investigation."

The Senator, who has made a career of being against gun ownership for the general public, didn't hesitate to defend himself with his own gun when he believed he was in immediate danger and he was the victim.

In typical hypocritical liberal fashion, the "Do as i say and not as i do" Anti-Gun Activist Lawmaker picked up his gun and took action in what apparently was a self-defense shooting. Why hypocritical you may ask? It is because his long legislative record shows that the actions that he took to protect his family, his own response to a dangerous life threatening situation, are actions that he feels ordinary citizens should not have if they were faced with an identical situation.

It has prompted some to ask if the Senator believes his life and personal safety is more valuable than yours or mine.

But, this is to be expected from those who believe they can run our lives, raise our kids, and protect our families better than we can.
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Old 01-02-2013, 12:39 AM   #110
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Old 01-02-2013, 12:54 AM   #111
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The Senator, who has made a career of being against gun ownership for the general public, didn't hesitate to defend himself with his own gun when he believed he was in immediate danger and he was the victim.

In typical hypocritical liberal fashion
, the "Do as i say and not as i do" Anti-Gun Activist Lawmaker picked up his gun and took action in what apparently was a self-defense shooting. Why hypocritical you may ask? It is because his long legislative record shows that the actions that he took to protect his family, his own response to a dangerous life threatening situation, are actions that he feels ordinary citizens should not have if they were faced with an identical situation.

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That's really weird. I'm surprised that the NRA would be so fond of someone like that.

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2006 - A
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Old 01-02-2013, 12:55 AM   #112
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Old 01-02-2013, 01:14 AM   #113
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The gun enthusiast you mentioned a few posts ago actually has quite the history--indictments for conspiracy, perjury, and bribery (charges later dropped or acquited) a couple of assaults (pled guilty), and he's currently dealing with several allegations over the past couple years of sex with boys.
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Old 01-02-2013, 02:07 AM   #114
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Old 01-02-2013, 06:08 AM   #115
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I've gone through a state trooper academy, hunters safety, and two handgun training classes. There's others on here who have been in the military, yet we're not law enforcement. You don't think that qualifies us to carry?
Have you been tested with within the last year to see if you meet even the minimum qualification standards to carry a weapon? Have you been range qualified on your specific CC weapon?

Point is, police officers test to meet those standards on a yearly basis. If you don't meet those simple standards annually, then no, you don't qualify to carry a weapon in public IMO. My past military experience as an infantryman tells me not to trust others around me with weapons that I don't personally know.
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Old 01-02-2013, 08:54 AM   #116
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Have you been tested with within the last year to see if you meet even the minimum qualification standards to carry a weapon? Have you been range qualified on your specific CC weapon?

Point is, police officers test to meet those standards on a yearly basis. If you don't meet those simple standards annually, then no, you don't qualify to carry a weapon in public IMO. My past military experience as an infantryman tells me not to trust others around me with weapons that I don't personally know.
Sadly, I haven't in about 3 years. However, I ran 300 rounds through my CCW pistol, 200 through my other .45, about 500 through my MKII practicing speed shooting, and 80 through my S&W .500. Not sure how many through my rifles.

Also, I haven't taken a driving test in 30 years. I guess I'm not qualified to drive anymore. Especially, with all the deaths that happen on the road each year and with all the crazy drivers!

I do agree with not shooting around people I don't know. It can be a scary ordeal. And I won't hunt with someone I haven't shot with before. I've been out in the woods with too many idiots.
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Old 01-02-2013, 11:10 AM   #117
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Absolutely.

A thief will thank you for knocking him down with a .45 ACP. He won't be doing anything but taking a dirt nap if shot with a 5.56 from that range.


Here are some photos of a .223 hitting a criminal's leg.

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I guess it all boils down to what you think you need and what weapon you feel comfortable with as a home defense weapon. I prefer a handgun in that situation. In fact my primary self defense weapon at home is a 40 cal with hollow point rounds. I am confident that I can defuse a threat effectively with it. I practice burst shooting at distances much further than any distance that would arise in my home. If I am ever put in that unfortunate situation killing is not my ultimate goal, however a well placed group in the intruders chest and his chances of survival are very slim and his ability to harm me at that point is smaller than winning the power ball lottery~
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Old 01-02-2013, 01:43 PM   #118
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I guess it all boils down to what you think you need and what weapon you feel comfortable with as a home defense weapon. I prefer a handgun in that situation. In fact my primary self defense weapon at home is a 40 cal with hollow point rounds. I am confident that I can defuse a threat effectively with it. I practice burst shooting at distances much further than any distance that would arise in my home. If I am ever put in that unfortunate situation killing is not my ultimate goal, however a well placed group in the intruders chest and his chances of survival are very slim and his ability to harm me at that point is smaller than winning the power ball lottery~
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1911 .45 ACP to fight my way to the 700 pump action assult shotgun.

If there is a hoard of maniacs outside my door, it's AR-15 or AR-10 time.


Sorry, I was just answering Bumps question about what bullet is deadlier. A 45 in a house would be more effective due to maneuverability.
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Old 01-02-2013, 02:32 PM   #119
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1911 .45 ACP to fight my way to the 700 pump action assult shotgun.

If there is a hoard of maniacs outside my door, it's AR-15 or AR-10 time.


Sorry, I was just answering Bumps question about what bullet is deadlier. A 45 in a house would be more effective due to maneuverability.
I am not expecting a hoard of maniacs, however if the occasion arose I have additional options as well
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a couple of claymores ought to do it...
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