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Old 01-02-2013, 07:51 AM  
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Chiefs on verge of a deal with Andy Reid (merged)

I just saw it on his Facebook status...

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Update from @mortreport: Cards visit with Andy Reid is off, Chiefs have not scheduled other visits with candidates, hoping to wrap deal Fri.

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Old 01-02-2013, 03:07 PM   #1201
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On ESPN they just said somebody believes there is a 95 percent chance that he will end up in Arizona. I don't know who was reporting it.
They said this yesterday when they said he was close to being hired. Then what ya know? Clark flies to Philly to interview him
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Old 01-02-2013, 03:07 PM   #1202
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I think you're overstating problems to fit an agenda here.
No agenda. Calling it as I've seen it past few years on Sunday Ticket. I've watched a dozen Cardinal and Seahawks games the past two years on Sunday afternoon, often times alternating between both, so I'm pretty familiar with both teams.

Seattle is my NFC pick, FWIW.

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3 teams found immediate starting RBs in the draft last season, only 1 of which found that one late in the draft. Yes, finding a late-round RB is quite hard, especially when you also have a shit offensive line.
Yes and no. The Redskins offensive line isn't highly regarded, yet Morris carved up teams this year. Tampa's first rounder had a very good year and there are other guys that have performed well, certainly better than Arizona's current crop of RB's, taken late or even undrafted (Arian Foster).

They're picking high, so they'll have an opportunity to draft some immediate starters on the offensive line plus there's free agency as well.

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And how do you figure the Chiefs need to find 3 D-linemen? If they move to a 4-3, they'll need at most 1. If they stay in a 4-3, they'll probably only need 1 (Poe's going to get a shot and frankly he probably deserves it). Jackson will be an adequate stopgap, especially if properly coached.
How do I figure? Well, the Chiefs aren't paying $14 million to TyJack so unless he wants to return to KC, he's gone. Same for Dorsey. Shaun Smith was a non-factor and I seriously doubt they'll want to start the year with Pituitoa, Poe and Bailey. They need depth AND starters.

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And yes, it is absolutely difficult to just re-set your O-Line, easily as difficult as D-lineman (it's no easier to find a LT than it is to find a RDE). Sure, you can just draft someone and throw them in there...but there's a better than average chance that they suck.
Sorry Man, I don't buy it. We're all told year after year after year how "Defensive line is the most difficult position to learn for rookies". Rarely do these guys make an impact, yet year after year, guards, centers and tackles start and perform well and continue to perform well. The learning curve for a D-lineman is much more severe than it is for a O-lineman.

I'm not sure that can even be questioned.

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Moreover, why is the Cardinals QB issue so quickly dismissed while the Chiefs one is not? Why is it easy for the Cards to just go get Alex Smith or Joe Flacco and not easy for KC? We have plenty of cap space and the Bidwells are hardly Dan Snyder. If that's the route that Reid wants to go, it will be no easier for AZ to turn that trick than it would be for KC.
Why? Because I don't think that Clark Hunt wants to sign another "retread" to be the starter. I don't think that would energize the fan base. I doubt many people are lining up to see Alex Smith start for KC or even Joe Flacco.

It *seems* to me that Hunt and most Chiefs fan want a first round QB to start the 2013 season and that's what will energize the fan base and sell tickets. As much as I like what Smith has accomplished under Harbaugh, it's a tough sell, IMO.

In Phoenix, there isn't an outcry for a first round QB. They just need someone accurate to get the ball to Larry Fitzgerald and those receivers. It's a totally different mindset.

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C'mon - you're understating the AZ holes and overstating the KC ones. These are two extremely similar situations and the Chiefs are playing in a weaker division. I don't see any reason to believe one has a clearer shot to the playoffs than the other apart from the 'inflection' you use when discussing respective weaknesses.
Agree to disagree.
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Old 01-02-2013, 03:08 PM   #1203
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On ESPN they just said somebody believes there is a 95 percent chance that he will end up in Arizona. I don't know who was reporting it.
Yeah, that was reported yesterday, before he ever even interviewed.

Hell, according to most reports, he's not even scheduled to meet with Arizona until tonight.
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Old 01-02-2013, 03:08 PM   #1204
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Just making a point.

No one knows WHY Pioli went on that trip or to what degree IF ANY he was involved.

Yet everyone is about to pass out from the loss of period blood.

Occam's ****ing razor. Buyout. Some really smart people are ignoring common sense and saying some really stupid shit today.

If Reid falls through, and Pioli is still here come February - then Clark's made it easy on everyone - walk away.
It really is that simple.
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Old 01-02-2013, 03:08 PM   #1205
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On ESPN they just said somebody believes there is a 95 percent chance that he will end up in Arizona. I don't know who was reporting it.
Adam Schefter originally said 95% and then backed off of that.
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Old 01-02-2013, 03:08 PM   #1206
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On ESPN they just said somebody believes there is a 95 percent chance that he will end up in Arizona. I don't know who was reporting it.
That was Adam Schefter, but that was last night after everyone said he agreed to a deal with Arizona, which wasnt the case
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Old 01-02-2013, 03:08 PM   #1207
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Again, why not say Pioli will be back when the question was plainly asked? Hunt is planning for Pioli to be gone. Why he isn't I don't know. But when your answer to, will Pioli be back as GM? is, there are still changes to be made, it doesn't sound good for Pioli.
I told you already. Just stick to your opinion, and I'll stick to mine. We'll find out who is right soon enough.
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How are they signing Smith?

He's not going to be traded in division.

I also think Poe is going to be a fine NT.
Poe surprised me. I thought he showed a lot of promise as a rookie. And as we've seen with some of our young Linemen, they will get better with time, which is kinda exciting.
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I think Poe would be an even better fit in the 4-3.
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Old 01-02-2013, 03:10 PM   #1211
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I told you already. Just stick to your opinion, and I'll stick to mine. We'll find out who is right soon enough.
I know. I thought you might have something else that makes more sense.
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Dane, this has "grass is always greener" written all over it.
Bullshit.
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It really is that simple.
Not for most, apparently.
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Old 01-02-2013, 03:10 PM   #1214
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If the Cards are closer than we think, than the Chiefs are closer than you think. We have a True Nose Tackle, Poe actually did quite well for a rookie, adn only stand to get better. Why are you dismissing that?

Why are you dismissing Kendrick Lewis, who is marginal, but not noting Marginal Cardinals players?

You keep saying the Cards QB situation is easy to fix, but the Chief's isnt? The same options are available to both clubs, except we'll be in a better position come draft time.

You mention how DJ is "aging" but make no mention on how the Cardinals players (Adrian Wilson???) are aging.

LT's are easy to find now?

5th round OL prospects are "Fixes" now?

Dane, this has "grass is always greener" written all over it.

These are two teams in very similar positions.

One is not "clearly" in a better position than the other.
I was about to edit my post to include this exact point when yours popped up. There's no clearer demonstration of the bias Dane is putting on this than right there.

DJ 'is aging' after having as good as a season as any ILB in football (and the best of his career) while Darnell Dockett was the best player on the AZ defense, is aging himself...oh, and kinda hates the Cardinals right now. As near as I can tell, DJ hasn't been fined $200K for conduct detrimental to the team, has he? And unlike DJ, Dockett is showing clear signs of decline on the field.
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