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Old 01-02-2013, 10:09 AM  
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Ray Lewis retiring at the end of the season

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Ray Lewis announced he is retiring at the end of the season.


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So Ray Lewis says he'll retire at end of the season. And as I've been reporting Ed Reed could be gone too. Sun could be last game for both
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Old 01-02-2013, 11:09 AM   #61
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Wow. I don't even remember all of the games from this season. I'm feeling a little inadequate right now.
I don't remember many of them, but I remember a few because they stung. I was at that Carolina game and in the end-zone when Green threw that pick. 14 point swing right there.

I remember the Atlanta game where we scored 50+ points and every single one of the TDs were rushing. Atlanta came in with the #1 rushing defense and we blew a nasty fart in their face by running for like 500 yards. That game got Blaylock a fat contract from New York.

I remember beating Indy too that year. That was fun.

Those Vermeil teams weren't great, but they were good. And that offense gave us every opportunity to win every single game. Many Vermeil bashers slam him because he never won anything. But even with that horrid defense, I felt like we had a chance every game.

I thought that 10-6 team in 2005 was very, very good. We missed the playoffs but I felt like we could beat just about anyone. The Philly game and the Dallas game we had no business losing. None. We could have very easily been 12-4 that year and we were playing very well at the end.

I would have taken us against anyone in the playoffs.

So sad to see us now; even if it wasn't ever "great".
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Old 01-02-2013, 11:11 AM   #62
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Count me on the list who doesn't think he's a top LB.

He's good yes, but he's been part of a good system and surrounded by great talent.

I've always thought he was an asshole and haven't forgotten his being part of a murder. He shouldn't even be in the league IMO.

Won't miss him and I don't really like Baltimore, so I guess it's a bonus.
This is more or less my opinion, too. I'll recognize that he was a very good linebacker, but I tend to back away from players who are attention whores, and with his little dances and all of his ego speeches, I found him quite annoying. I think he sold his "great linebacker" stuff by getting in front of the cameras a lot and by being the "leader" of some really strong defenses.
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Old 01-02-2013, 11:14 AM   #63
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This is more or less my opinion, too. I'll recognize that he was a very good linebacker, but I tend to back away from players who are attention whores, and with his little dances and all of his ego speeches, I found him quite annoying. I think he sold his "great linebacker" stuff by getting in front of the cameras a lot and by being the "leader" of some really strong defenses.
so everyone that has a dance or a pre-game speech is annoying?

Drew Brees, Lebron James, etc?


If this guy was dancing and pre-game speech in a Chiefs uniform you'd have 10 inch boner for him and be in love with him. That's the difference.
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Old 01-02-2013, 11:16 AM   #64
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Count me on the list who doesn't think he's a top LB.

He's good yes, but he's been part of a good system and surrounded by great talent.

I've always thought he was an asshole and haven't forgotten his being part of a murder. He shouldn't even be in the league IMO.

Won't miss him and I don't really like Baltimore, so I guess it's a bonus.
You could say the same thing about Derrick Thomas... including the murderer part (the passenger in Thomas' car who was killed), not to mention 7 kids with 7 mothers.
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Old 01-02-2013, 11:18 AM   #65
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so everyone that has a dance or a pre-game speech is annoying?

Drew Brees, Lebron James, etc?


If this guy was dancing and pre-game speech in a Chiefs uniform you'd have 10 inch boner for him and be in love with him. That's the difference.
Honestly, everyone with a dance is indeed annoying to me. I'm a low-key guy that way. Pre-game speeches are not a huge issue for me, but then again we don't see them very often.

If Lewis was a Chief I would be more patient with him, most likely, but I'd still probably reach for the chip and dip whenever the camera showed him flailing around before the game.

I appreciate the 10-inch comment, though I wonder how you knew that.
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Old 01-02-2013, 11:22 AM   #66
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Hire him as our next DC!
Don't miss a tackle or he'll have you stabbed.




I can't see him ever coaching. He sure doesn't seem to have that demeanor.
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Old 01-02-2013, 11:23 AM   #67
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You could say the same thing about Derrick Thomas... including the murderer part (the passenger in Thomas' car who was killed), not to mention 7 kids with 7 mothers.
I could say similar things about DT, however DT harmed a friend, in an accident. Much different than having your home boys stab someone to death with knives.
It's like Comparing Josh Brent of the Cowboys to Jovan Belcher. Not the same.



As for LB, DT was a great pass rusher, but he definitely was a liability in run defense.
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Old 01-02-2013, 11:24 AM   #68
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I could say similar things about DT, however DT harmed a friend, in an accident. Much different than having your home boys stab someone to death with knives.



As for LB, DT was a great pass rusher, but he definitely was a liability in run defense.
He killed a friend due to his wreckless driving.
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Old 01-02-2013, 11:26 AM   #69
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I can't see him ever coaching. He sure doesn't seem to have that demeanor.

I'm not sure that a top player is really a good fit as a coach. I think the top players have good instincts and/or exceptional natural skills, and it's hard for them to recognize that not every player has those. If you're going to hire a former player, I think you're better off hiring some guy who was a marginal player, but stayed in the league because he really, really, really understood the game and maximized his limited abilities. It's kind of a Jim Harbaugh/Marty Schottenheimer/Don Shula/Tom Landry model as opposed to a Mike Singletary/Forrest Gregg/Raymond Berry/Bart Starr model. Has a big star ever been a highly successful coach?
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Old 01-02-2013, 11:27 AM   #70
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He killed a friend due to his wreckless driving.
Or sadly, his unwreckless driving.
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Yeah. That's not the same thing as the other option.
A friend dying in an accident is not the same as Stabbing a stranger to death.

Ray Lewis has been a very good Linebacker, but I'm going to stick to my opinion that he's over-hyped and over-rated. He's played his entire career with good linebackers on both sides, an aggressive scheme, solid safety play behind him and a stout front 3 keeping blockers off of him.
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Old 01-02-2013, 11:58 AM   #72
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Lewis will end up coaching at some point imo
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So ray ray retiring hide yo kids hide yo wife because he going to be looking to stab someone.
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The Chiefs should call Lewis as soon as his season is done and offer him the LB coaching job.
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