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Old 01-03-2013, 10:40 AM  
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Defense: Will We Still Be in the 3-4 in 2013?

Who will be the next DC?

Which players would be out of a job if we changed scheme?

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Old 01-05-2013, 10:44 AM   #106
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Old 01-05-2013, 10:47 AM   #107
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I'd like to go back to the 43 if not for any other reason but it's not the Pioliass way.
that's the only honest reason to switch this team.

27 sacks this season -- that is pathetic for a 4th year defense.

29 sacks the season before. still not good.

38 sacks during 2010 -- that's good.

10 ****ing sacks the last time this team was 43 base defense. 10.

I'm gonna expect they will use base 34 with a lot more 43 initially. If they have success 43, then they will use it more. But unless they get a capable pass rusher not named Justin Houston, I doubt they will switch.

Houston is a good all around backer -- he can cover, tackle and sack. Why would you limit his abilities putting him in a an exclusive role? I would not.
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Old 01-05-2013, 10:48 AM   #108
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Man, I really think going back to a 4-3 when you've finally got the key pieces for a 3-4 is a HUGE mistake.

And, you know, I think Andy Reid is a smart guy and realizes that some of these defensive schemes are outdated. I mean, if HE knows how to take apart a Tampa 2, don't you think he'd rather not have THAT be the defense he runs?

I'm holding out hope for a hire from the assistant ranks in either San Fran or Pittsburgh.
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Old 01-05-2013, 10:59 AM   #109
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I would keep a eye on Monte Kiffin, Mel Tucker among others.
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Old 01-05-2013, 11:08 AM   #110
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I would keep a eye on Monte Kiffin, Mel Tucker among others.
I don't want Kiffin. No.
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Old 01-05-2013, 11:28 AM   #111
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I would keep a eye on Monte Kiffin, Mel Tucker among others.
How about Kieth Butler, if they could pry him away from Pittsburgh? Also Jim Tomsula of 49'ers might be worth considering.

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Old 01-05-2013, 11:43 AM   #112
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How about Kieth Butler, if they could pry him away from Pittsburgh? Also Jim Tomsula of 49'ers might be worth considering.
Yes. Also wouldn't be against Todd Bowles if they let him run the 3-4 instead of forcing him to coach the wide 9.
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Old 01-05-2013, 11:47 AM   #113
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Man, I really think going back to a 4-3 when you've finally got the key pieces for a 3-4 is a HUGE mistake.
100% agree...

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And, you know, I think Andy Reid is a smart guy and realizes that some of these defensive schemes are outdated.
I don't think giving the man more power than he's ever had tells him he needs to reevaluate his philosophy...
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Old 01-05-2013, 11:51 AM   #114
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I'd rather see us stay in the 3-4 but with a more aggressive approach. Trying to fit Hali and Houston into a 4-3 would be much harder than changing the mindset of Jackson and replacing Dorsey.
hali was a DE originally, Houston would do fine as a Will linebacker, and Dorsey was a 4-3 DT originally. there wouldn't be much need to change personnel. however, i like the versatility that comes with the 3-4, and would prefer to stick with it.
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Old 01-05-2013, 11:51 AM   #115
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Are there any 3-4 coaches out there even?

(and by out there, I mean available in a non Rivera sorta way)
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Old 01-05-2013, 12:25 PM   #116
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that's the only honest reason to switch this team.

27 sacks this season -- that is pathetic for a 4th year defense.

29 sacks the season before. still not good.

38 sacks during 2010 -- that's good.

10 ****ing sacks the last time this team was 43 base defense. 10.

I'm gonna expect they will use base 34 with a lot more 43 initially. If they have success 43, then they will use it more. But unless they get a capable pass rusher not named Justin Houston, I doubt they will switch.

Houston is a good all around backer -- he can cover, tackle and sack. Why would you limit his abilities putting him in a an exclusive role? I would not.
27 sacks when you never have the lead and your team knows it has nothing to play for is fine.
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Old 01-05-2013, 12:28 PM   #117
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Are there any 3-4 coaches out there even?

(and by out there, I mean available in a non Rivera sorta way)
Ray Horton
Reggie Herring of the Texans

I'm sure there's plenty of others I'm not considering.
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Old 01-05-2013, 01:13 PM   #118
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Yes. Also wouldn't be against Todd Bowles if they let him run the 3-4 instead of forcing him to coach the wide 9.
Unfortunately, he runs 2-gap.

No thank you.
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Old 01-05-2013, 04:16 PM   #119
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hali was a DE originally, Houston would do fine as a Will linebacker, and Dorsey was a 4-3 DT originally. there wouldn't be much need to change personnel. however, i like the versatility that comes with the 3-4, and would prefer to stick with it.
Hali would have to gain weight again to be 4-3 which would limit his effectiveness. Dorsey hasn't proven anything and has absolutely no pass rush skills. He would need to be replaced 3-4 or 4-3.
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Old 01-05-2013, 04:30 PM   #120
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Dorsey has been solid against the run and IMO has been coached to focus on that only. I think that plays against his strengths and why he was such a high pick. His first step at lsu was crazy good and he was a disruptive player against the pass and run.

If we go back to the 4-3, he would be worth signing if we can get him at a reasonable amount.
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