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Old 01-05-2013, 08:26 AM  
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Newtown shooting theory-the government did it.

This was in the St. Paul paper this morning. I don't know how much press it will get.
This will make everyone throw up. This guy must be completely nuts.


Retired UMD professor theorizes that government behind Newtown massacre
By Jana Hollingsworth
Duluth News Tribune
Posted: 01/04/2013 12:01:00 AM CST
Updated: 01/04/2013 06:19:15 PM CST


A retired University of Minnesota-Duluth professor known for his conspiracy theories on John F. Kennedy's assassination, the 9/11 attacks and the Paul Wellstone plane crash has found himself in the news again -- this time for claiming the U.S. government was involved in the Newtown, Conn., school shootings.

In his online writings, James Fetzer cites chief among his credentials his ties to UMD, a fact lamented by at least one professor at another university.

Fetzer, also an author and former Marine Corps officer, claims in an online journal that Israeli Mossad death squads and the U.S. government might have been behind the school shootings in Connecticut. At the end of his piece, Fetzer describes himself as an emeritus professor at UMD, and he uses his UMD e-mail address as his contact.

UMD officials say Fetzer has the right to express his views -- but he also has the responsibility to make clear he's not speaking for the university.

Other retired UMD faculty members have been identified as emeriti when writing opinion pieces in the pages of the News Tribune, including physician Robert Goldish and American Indian studies professor Robert Powless.

Fetzer's Newtown conspiracy theory earned him a mention by writer Michael Moynihan in the online magazine "Daily Beast," an article titled: "Newtown Conspiracy Theories: Obama, Iran, and Other Culprits." Beneath that, a secondary headline reads: "The government was behind the school massacre. Wait, it was Obama,
in a ruse to take our guns away. No, it was Iran! Israel! Batman! Michael Moynihan on the paranoid wing's 'real truth' about Sandy Hook."

Fetzer writes in his online column, published on "Press TV and "Veterans Today": "The Sandy Hook massacre appears to have been a psy op intended to strike fear in the hearts of Americans by the sheer brutality of the massacre, where the killing of children is a signature of terror ops conducted by agents of Israel."

The act, Fetzer said in an interview with the News Tribune, "is part of an escalating series of covert operations intended to create hysteria in the American people in order to support gun control legislation that completely subverts the Second Amendment."

Fetzer lists his UMD e-mail address as the way for readers to contact him, which was granted to him as part of his retirement package. He says he doesn't speak for UMD and that UMD hasn't suggested he refrain from connecting himself to the university.

"There is something called freedom of research, freedom of inquiry," he said, "which the University of Minnesota has respected. I can't imagine why any university would want to discourage its faculty from exercising their independent thought and critical reasoning ability."

Faculty, including faculty emeriti, are protected by the Regents Policy on Academic Freedom and Responsibility, according to Andrea Schokker, executive vice chancellor of academic affairs at UMD. The policy protects the freedom of creative expression and to speak or write on matters of public interest without institutional discipline or restraint. That comes with the responsibility to make it clear that one isn't speaking for the institution, she said.

But to the average person who reads the Fetzer piece, it appears Fetzer represents UMD, said Donna Halper, an associate professor of communication at Lesley University in Cambridge, Mass. Fetzer identifies himself as a UMD professor emeritus and notes his faculty page on UMD's website.

"For a professor to be spreading stereotypes under the guise of academic freedom is profoundly disappointing," said Halper, whose earlier career in radio led her to Duluth several times. She found Duluth to be tolerant and compassionate, she said, and she was surprised to read Fetzer's work, which she classified as a "fringe view."

"I'm not saying he doesn't have the right to speak, but ... when it comes from a professor, it makes me wonder: What did he teach his students?" asked Halper, who teaches courses on philosophy and communication ethics. "Here you have someone who is allegedly an educated person spreading such uneducated opinions in the name of Duluth. That's outrageous."

Fetzer, of Oregon, Wis., and a professor of philosophy, spent 35 years teaching at universities, 19 of those years at UMD. He was awarded a McKnight Professorship from the University of Minnesota in 1996, which included a $100,000 research grant. He retired from UMD in 2006.

He has an Internet radio show, has written more than two dozen books and has become a well-known voice among those who claim that Kennedy was assassinated by his own government. He also theorizes that the U.S. government was involved in the Wellstone plane crash and the 9/11 attacks.

As a philosopher, Fetzer said, he cares about the truth, and his scientific research has revealed that "the government lies to us."

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Old 01-08-2013, 08:16 PM   #181
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So, you are in agreement with the video, or not? Are you calling CoMo a dumbass? Because he most certainly believes it was either a planned govt job and/or the deaths were actually faked. And while Spazod isn't completely sure yet, he does think it is possible it was a govt job.
all the deaths were fake? where do you come up w/ this shit?

Oh that's right....you're cosmo.

There's a lot of shit (like the Batman shooter) that doesn't add up in this. Criminal elements of our govt/military industrial complex has been behind staged terrorist attacks before in order to go forward w/ a particular agenda. So for them to drug up some patsy psychotic nutcase that had a background of mental health issues and for them to have them go in and kill a bunch of little kids using a military-grade rifle doesn't surprise me....and then for the media to immediately come out and blame the mother for being a prepper for having the guns around like it was the weapon that was the problem.

Now we have gun banning legislation that's trying to be passed...when alternative media outlets have been saying for months that Obama admin will come after the 2nd amendment if he's elected into office again (which they're now doing). Obama "tried" to blame the 2nd amendment on Fast n Furious which happened to blow up in his face. Criminal elements in our own federal govt were behind the Oklahoma City bombings, 9/11, Batman shootings, so I wouldn't put anything past our own govt to go out and do something like this.
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Old 01-08-2013, 08:17 PM   #182
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all the deaths were fake? where do you come up w/ this shit?

Oh that's right....you're cosmo.
Seriously, that was his latest strawman (logical fallacy)? READING FAIL!
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Old 01-08-2013, 08:21 PM   #183
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all the deaths were fake? where do you come up w/ this shit?

Oh that's right....you're cosmo.
Oh, so the official nutjub story is that only some of the deaths were faked? I saw the thing about the "dead" girl appearing in the pic with Obama. Yeah, only faking some of the deaths makes a lot more sense
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Old 01-08-2013, 08:24 PM   #184
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Seriously, that was his latest strawman (logical fallacy)?
Its a logical fallacy all right--it's just not mine. I don't come up with this crap. I'm just a sheep that thinks Adam Lanza shot his mother, took some of her guns, then killed 26 people at his former school.
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Old 01-08-2013, 08:26 PM   #185
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Personally, I think every one of you is bug **** nuts for even arguing about this shit.
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Old 01-08-2013, 08:27 PM   #186
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Old 01-08-2013, 08:28 PM   #187
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Its a logical fallacy all right--it's just not mine. I don't come up with this crap. I'm just a sheep that thinks Adam Lanza shot his mother, took some of her guns, then killed 26 people at his former school.
No, you falsified part of his claim.
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No, you falsified part of his claim.
"Faked the deaths" vs "faked some of the deaths"? It was an honest mistake. But was it a material one? Both are the products of a batshit-crazy mind.
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That's what we've come to DC to do, Just have to put on your big boy pants and wade in.
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Look Cosmo we all no you love Obama Holder Clintons ect. You ****ing idolize them. I also know if any one of them walked up to you,and told you that your mother was a ****ing BIG FOOT. You would run home & scream at your mom. MOM! WHY DIDNT YOU TELL ME YOU WERE SASQUATCH.

Funny how none of our resident libtard sheeple have commented on this.

I guess the guy who the dude cuffed in the cop car was an NRA plant, right? The little kid too. Damn NRA child plants - they're everywhere. And the helicopter footage? MUST BE CGI, DAMMIT, THAT NEVER HAPPENED.

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SHEEP!

That's dumb. He's hinging his story on a Google search date. But that's not really proof of anything, as the dates on Google aren't guaranteed to be an exact indication of when a website or its many pages was actually uploaded. He even navigates to the memorial page in question, and looks at that exact page, and the date for that page says Jan. 6th. But he thinks the date on Google's search page should take precedence over the date on the exact webpage he's referencing, which is absurd.

And the Emily Parker photo has been debunked already. The family has 3 blond girls. All 3 are present in the before picture, and only 2 are present in the Obama pic. It's the sister. Families often buy matching dresses for little girls.

It's pretty hilarious when he says at 8:30.. "I'm startin ta think we're smarter than they are."
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I saw the footage of the boy talking about the other guy being cuffed on the ground and I saw on TV a man being chased in the woods. I asked my keeper, why are they chasing someone in the woods if the killer killed himself. Didn't see any of this on Infowars either.
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Much of the "second shooter" speculation was spurred by a man who was detained and released after being spotted in the woods outside the school. Numerous witnesses and TV stations reported seeing a man handcuffed and placed in a police car on Friday morning. After he was interviewed and released, police moved on to other matters, but the record was never fully cleared up and the event got lost in the larger story, leading many to believe the arrest was being actively suppressed. We admit it took a bit of digging to discover that others had figured out that the man in question was most likely Chris Manfredonia, the father of a Sandy Hook student, who attempted to sneak into the school after the shooting started. Police can be heard relaying his name over their radios, but few outlets managed to follow up with that detail.
http://www.theatlanticwire.com/natio...heories/60126/
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Okay so there's missing information being filled in. Now what about the other guy running in the woods?
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