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displacedinMN · 08:32 AM

This was in the St. Paul paper this morning. I don't know how much press it will get.
This will make everyone throw up. This guy must be completely nuts.

Retired UMD professor theorizes that government behind Newtown massacre
By Jana Hollingsworth
Duluth News Tribune
Posted: 01/04/2013 12:01:00 AM CST
Updated: 01/04/2013 06:19:15 PM CST

A retired University of Minnesota-Duluth professor known for his conspiracy theories on John F. Kennedy's assassination, the 9/11 attacks and the Paul Wellstone plane crash has found himself in the news again -- this time for claiming the U.S. government was involved in the Newtown, Conn., school shootings.

In his online writings, James Fetzer cites chief among his credentials his ties to UMD, a fact lamented by at least one professor at another university.

Fetzer, also an author and former Marine Corps officer, claims in an online journal that Israeli Mossad death squads and the U.S. government might have been behind the school shootings in Connecticut. At the end of his piece, Fetzer describes himself as an emeritus professor at UMD, and he uses his UMD e-mail address as his contact.

UMD officials say Fetzer has the right to express his views -- but he also has the responsibility to make clear he's not speaking for the university.

Other retired UMD faculty members have been identified as emeriti when writing opinion pieces in the pages of the News Tribune, including physician Robert Goldish and American Indian studies professor Robert Powless.

Fetzer's Newtown conspiracy theory earned him a mention by writer Michael Moynihan in the online magazine "Daily Beast," an article titled: "Newtown Conspiracy Theories: Obama, Iran, and Other Culprits." Beneath that, a secondary headline reads: "The government was behind the school massacre. Wait, it was Obama,
in a ruse to take our guns away. No, it was Iran! Israel! Batman! Michael Moynihan on the paranoid wing's 'real truth' about Sandy Hook."

Fetzer writes in his online column, published on "Press TV and "Veterans Today": "The Sandy Hook massacre appears to have been a psy op intended to strike fear in the hearts of Americans by the sheer brutality of the massacre, where the killing of children is a signature of terror ops conducted by agents of Israel."

The act, Fetzer said in an interview with the News Tribune, "is part of an escalating series of covert operations intended to create hysteria in the American people in order to support gun control legislation that completely subverts the Second Amendment."

Fetzer lists his UMD e-mail address as the way for readers to contact him, which was granted to him as part of his retirement package. He says he doesn't speak for UMD and that UMD hasn't suggested he refrain from connecting himself to the university.

"There is something called freedom of research, freedom of inquiry," he said, "which the University of Minnesota has respected. I can't imagine why any university would want to discourage its faculty from exercising their independent thought and critical reasoning ability."

Faculty, including faculty emeriti, are protected by the Regents Policy on Academic Freedom and Responsibility, according to Andrea Schokker, executive vice chancellor of academic affairs at UMD. The policy protects the freedom of creative expression and to speak or write on matters of public interest without institutional discipline or restraint. That comes with the responsibility to make it clear that one isn't speaking for the institution, she said.

But to the average person who reads the Fetzer piece, it appears Fetzer represents UMD, said Donna Halper, an associate professor of communication at Lesley University in Cambridge, Mass. Fetzer identifies himself as a UMD professor emeritus and notes his faculty page on UMD's website.

"For a professor to be spreading stereotypes under the guise of academic freedom is profoundly disappointing," said Halper, whose earlier career in radio led her to Duluth several times. She found Duluth to be tolerant and compassionate, she said, and she was surprised to read Fetzer's work, which she classified as a "fringe view."

"I'm not saying he doesn't have the right to speak, but ... when it comes from a professor, it makes me wonder: What did he teach his students?" asked Halper, who teaches courses on philosophy and communication ethics. "Here you have someone who is allegedly an educated person spreading such uneducated opinions in the name of Duluth. That's outrageous."

Fetzer, of Oregon, Wis., and a professor of philosophy, spent 35 years teaching at universities, 19 of those years at UMD. He was awarded a McKnight Professorship from the University of Minnesota in 1996, which included a $100,000 research grant. He retired from UMD in 2006.

He has an Internet radio show, has written more than two dozen books and has become a well-known voice among those who claim that Kennedy was assassinated by his own government. He also theorizes that the U.S. government was involved in the Wellstone plane crash and the 9/11 attacks.

As a philosopher, Fetzer said, he cares about the truth, and his scientific research has revealed that "the government lies to us."

ClevelandBronco · 01-05-2013, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief

The girl wearing the same dress allegedly is the same girl Emily Parker, one of the kids murdered that day. If she was murdered then how come she's in the picture w/ President Soetoro?

Furthermore, you're silly.

BucEyedPea · 01-05-2013, 05:34 PM

There's some speculation that this was done because Adam's father was going to be testifying in the Libor scandal which he was because he worked in GE's banking sector. Raw sound footage shows there was another shooter and a child is on camera saying the police had one man down on the ground handcuffed and another man wearing camo was running away in the woods. I remember asking during the first news footage, who are the cops chasing in the woods if the killer shot himself. Then the Conn cops threatened social media for challenging the official narrative.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libor_scandal

KC native · 01-05-2013, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Fish

What kind of ridiculous bullshit is this?

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KChiefer · 01-05-2013, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by BucEyedPea

There's some speculation that this was done because Adam's father was going to be testifying in the Libor scandal which he was because he worked in GE's banking sector. Raw sound footage shows there was another shooter and a child is on camera saying the police had one man down on the ground handcuffed and another man wearing camo was running away in the woods. I remember asking during the first news footage, who are the cops chasing in the woods if the killer shot himself. Then the Conn cops threatened social media for challenging the official narrative.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libor_scandal

And this prevents him from testifying how???

Thig Lyfe · 01-05-2013, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN

Or he's very intelligent and most everyone else is a dumbshit. who knows?

Nah, I'm gonna go with the first option.

cosmo20002 · 01-05-2013, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief

The girl wearing the same dress allegedly is the same girl Emily Parker, one of the kids murdered that day. If she was murdered then how come she's in the picture w/ President Soetoro?

You are truly a ****ing moron.

BucEyedPea · 01-05-2013, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by KChiefer

And this prevents him from testifying how???

My understanding is that he had been scheduled to appear. Peter Lanza already drove to northern New Jersey to talk to police and the FBI. He's supposed to be a whistleblower. Maybe someone was trying to get to him—not just delay him. Like I said, it's speculation. It's one of the stories floating around. The two shooter story, imo, is fishy in itself.

cosmo20002 · 01-05-2013, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by BucEyedPea

My understanding is that he was scheduled to appear. Peter Lanza already drove to northern New Jersey to talk to police and the FBI. He's supposed to be a whistleblower. Maybe someone was trying to get to him—not just delay him. Like I said, it's speculation. It's one of the stories floating around.

If there's an incredibly batshit crazy story out there, we can always count on you to help spread it around.

KChiefer · 01-05-2013, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by BucEyedPea

My understanding is that he had been scheduled to appear. Peter Lanza already drove to northern New Jersey to talk to police and the FBI. He's supposed to be a whistleblower. Maybe someone was trying to get to him—not just delay him. Like I said, it's speculation. It's one of the stories floating around. The two shooter story, imo, is fishy in itself.

Uhhh, wasn't this whole Libor thing said about the Aurora shooter's father?

Speculation is far too kind a word.

**CrazyPhuD** · 01-05-2013, 06:24 PM

**CrazyPhuD** · 01-05-2013, 06:27 PM

But seriously consider the level of psychosis it would to pull something like that off. It would take a bunch of total psychopaths who don't like to brag to not get caught. The probability of this being even remotely accurate is non-existent.

Chiefspants · 01-05-2013, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief

So dad is laughing, joking around w/ people before the cameras shoot to him, then starts breathing heavily preparing for his speech so he can act the part of devastation? Seems awfully weird...

So the Newtown Community, Teaching Staff, and every first responder agreed to be a part of this incredible cover up?

Give me a break.

CoMoChief · 01-05-2013, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by CrazyPhuD

But seriously consider the level of psychosis it would to pull something like that off. It would take a bunch of total psychopaths who don't like to brag to not get caught. The probability of this being even remotely accurate is non-existent.

Actually all it takes is a drugged up patsy.....look at the Batman shooter. Dude was completely drugged out of his mind.

CoMoChief · 01-05-2013, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants

So the Newtown Community, Teaching Staff, and every first responder agreed to be a part of this incredible cover up?

Give me a break.

I never said that at all.

BucEyedPea · 01-05-2013, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by KChiefer

Uhhh, wasn't this whole Libor thing said about the Aurora shooter's father?

I hadn't heard of that one until now and just googled it to check. I read about the Libor thing weeks ago.

Quote:

Speculation is far too kind a word.

Each to their own.

01-05-2013, 08:26 AM
displacedinMN Starter Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Correcting papers Casino cash: $11061	Newtown shooting theory-the government did it. This was in the St. Paul paper this morning. I don't know how much press it will get. This will make everyone throw up. This guy must be completely nuts. Retired UMD professor theorizes that government behind Newtown massacre By Jana Hollingsworth Duluth News Tribune Posted: 01/04/2013 12:01:00 AM CST Updated: 01/04/2013 06:19:15 PM CST A retired University of Minnesota-Duluth professor known for his conspiracy theories on John F. Kennedy's assassination, the 9/11 attacks and the Paul Wellstone plane crash has found himself in the news again -- this time for claiming the U.S. government was involved in the Newtown, Conn., school shootings. In his online writings, James Fetzer cites chief among his credentials his ties to UMD, a fact lamented by at least one professor at another university. Fetzer, also an author and former Marine Corps officer, claims in an online journal that Israeli Mossad death squads and the U.S. government might have been behind the school shootings in Connecticut. At the end of his piece, Fetzer describes himself as an emeritus professor at UMD, and he uses his UMD e-mail address as his contact. UMD officials say Fetzer has the right to express his views -- but he also has the responsibility to make clear he's not speaking for the university. Other retired UMD faculty members have been identified as emeriti when writing opinion pieces in the pages of the News Tribune, including physician Robert Goldish and American Indian studies professor Robert Powless. Fetzer's Newtown conspiracy theory earned him a mention by writer Michael Moynihan in the online magazine "Daily Beast," an article titled: "Newtown Conspiracy Theories: Obama, Iran, and Other Culprits." Beneath that, a secondary headline reads: "The government was behind the school massacre. Wait, it was Obama, in a ruse to take our guns away. No, it was Iran! Israel! Batman! Michael Moynihan on the paranoid wing's 'real truth' about Sandy Hook." Fetzer writes in his online column, published on "Press TV and "Veterans Today": "The Sandy Hook massacre appears to have been a psy op intended to strike fear in the hearts of Americans by the sheer brutality of the massacre, where the killing of children is a signature of terror ops conducted by agents of Israel." The act, Fetzer said in an interview with the News Tribune, "is part of an escalating series of covert operations intended to create hysteria in the American people in order to support gun control legislation that completely subverts the Second Amendment." Fetzer lists his UMD e-mail address as the way for readers to contact him, which was granted to him as part of his retirement package. He says he doesn't speak for UMD and that UMD hasn't suggested he refrain from connecting himself to the university. "There is something called freedom of research, freedom of inquiry," he said, "which the University of Minnesota has respected. I can't imagine why any university would want to discourage its faculty from exercising their independent thought and critical reasoning ability." Faculty, including faculty emeriti, are protected by the Regents Policy on Academic Freedom and Responsibility, according to Andrea Schokker, executive vice chancellor of academic affairs at UMD. The policy protects the freedom of creative expression and to speak or write on matters of public interest without institutional discipline or restraint. That comes with the responsibility to make it clear that one isn't speaking for the institution, she said. But to the average person who reads the Fetzer piece, it appears Fetzer represents UMD, said Donna Halper, an associate professor of communication at Lesley University in Cambridge, Mass. Fetzer identifies himself as a UMD professor emeritus and notes his faculty page on UMD's website. "For a professor to be spreading stereotypes under the guise of academic freedom is profoundly disappointing," said Halper, whose earlier career in radio led her to Duluth several times. She found Duluth to be tolerant and compassionate, she said, and she was surprised to read Fetzer's work, which she classified as a "fringe view." "I'm not saying he doesn't have the right to speak, but ... when it comes from a professor, it makes me wonder: What did he teach his students?" asked Halper, who teaches courses on philosophy and communication ethics. "Here you have someone who is allegedly an educated person spreading such uneducated opinions in the name of Duluth. That's outrageous." Fetzer, of Oregon, Wis., and a professor of philosophy, spent 35 years teaching at universities, 19 of those years at UMD. He was awarded a McKnight Professorship from the University of Minnesota in 1996, which included a $100,000 research grant. He retired from UMD in 2006. He has an Internet radio show, has written more than two dozen books and has become a well-known voice among those who claim that Kennedy was assassinated by his own government. He also theorizes that the U.S. government was involved in the Wellstone plane crash and the 9/11 attacks. As a philosopher, Fetzer said, he cares about the truth, and his scientific research has revealed that "the government lies to us." Last edited by displacedinMN; 01-05-2013 at 08:32 AM..
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BucEyedPea Frazod Loves Hammy Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: None of your business Casino cash: $48188	There's some speculation that this was done because Adam's father was going to be testifying in the Libor scandal which he was because he worked in GE's banking sector. Raw sound footage shows there was another shooter and a child is on camera saying the police had one man down on the ground handcuffed and another man wearing camo was running away in the woods. I remember asking during the first news footage, who are the cops chasing in the woods if the killer shot himself. Then the Conn cops threatened social media for challenging the official narrative. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libor_scandal __________________ "In government, the scum rises to the top."~ Hayek
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CrazyPhuD Meow Join Date: Jun 2005 Casino cash: $1601133	But seriously consider the level of psychosis it would to pull something like that off. It would take a bunch of total psychopaths who don't like to brag to not get caught. The probability of this being even remotely accurate is non-existent. __________________ "Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t*rd by the clean end"
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