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Old 01-07-2013, 07:18 AM  
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Bucs not planning to extend Josh Freeman

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...mans-contract/

According to Rick Stroud of the Tampa Bay Times, the Bucs wonít be extending Freemanís contract, which expires after the 2013 season. And as Stroud explains it, the decision not to sign Freeman to a new deal could be part of a plan by coach Greg Schiano, who inherited Freeman, to get his own quarterback. And Freeman may change Schianoís mind only by playing so well this season that Freeman leaves the Bucs with no other option than to use the franchise tag or sign him to a long-term deal.

One possibility would be to apply the non-exclusive tag and to see if anyone is willing to sign Freeman to an offer sheet and give up a pair of first-round picks. That would enable the Bucs to pull a reverse Keyshawn, giving up a player and getting two first-round picks 14 years after they gave up two first-round picks to get Keyshawn Johnson from the Jets.

The Bucs likely would settle for less, since the alternative will be to let Freeman walk away.
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Old 01-07-2013, 10:53 AM   #181
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If you say so... I have never heard that about him.
What else is there?

He's got all this talent but remains inconsistent 3 years later.

He either doesn't have great talent or he's not focused.
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Old 01-07-2013, 10:54 AM   #182
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Signing a REALEASED Matt Flynn and trading picks for Matt Flynn (or Josh Freeman) are two completely different things, though.
Understood. And swapping first round picks to draft a qb at 13, isn't spending two first rounders on a qb.
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Old 01-07-2013, 10:54 AM   #183
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Old 01-07-2013, 10:55 AM   #184
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Understood. And swapping first round picks to draft a qb at 13, isn't spending two first rounders on a qb.
How do you figure?

You spent your first on a QB plus another first and used that first you picked up on a QB.

I give you the 2013 Raiders!
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Old 01-07-2013, 10:56 AM   #185
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Thank God this is just a rumor. I just have to keep telling myself that.
this above anything else
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Old 01-07-2013, 11:00 AM   #186
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Old 01-07-2013, 11:00 AM   #187
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What else is there?

He's got all this talent but remains inconsistent 3 years later.

He either doesn't have great talent or he's not focused.
OR he is just plain inconsistent. Havign a revolving door at WR, running back, OC and even head coach to an extent hasn't helped.... Plus the defense being dreadful.
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Old 01-07-2013, 11:02 AM   #188
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OR he is just plain inconsistent. Havign a revolving door at WR, running back, OC and even head coach to an extent hasn't helped.... Plus the defense being dreadful.
If he's just "plain inconsistent" then he's not that good.

If you have to flip a coin on a daily basis to determine which version of Freeman you are going to get then no thanks.

Good luck in your QBotF search next year.
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Old 01-07-2013, 11:02 AM   #189
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How do you figure?

You spent your first on a QB plus another first and used that first you picked up on a QB.

I give you the 2013 Raiders!

we have one first round pick right now. If we swapped picks for freeman, we'd still only have one first round pick.


anyway, my only point is I dont want all my eggs in one basket. gino may be ryan leaf, freeman may not be salvaged, wilson could be thigpenish. targeting more than one of them SEEMS smart to me
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Old 01-07-2013, 11:03 AM   #190
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we have one first round pick right now. If we swapped picks for freeman, we'd still only have one first round pick.


anyway, my only point is I dont want all my eggs in one basket. gino may be ryan leaf, freeman may not be salvaged, wilson could be thigpenish. targeting more than one of them SEEMS smart to me
Ya... you target one later in the draft. Not in the same ****ing round.

If you are giving up the #1 pick for a QB and a mid round first you are banking on Freeman being that QBotF. You don't use that mid round first on another QB. You use that pick to get someone thats going to aid in Freeman being worth it.
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Old 01-07-2013, 11:05 AM   #191
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Understood. And swapping first round picks to draft a qb at 13, isn't spending two first rounders on a qb.
Essentially it is, though.
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Ya... you target one later in the draft. Not in the same ****ing round.

If you are giving up the #1 pick for a QB and a mid round first you are banking on Freeman being that QBotF. You don't use that mid round first on another QB. You use that pick to get someone thats going to aid in Freeman being worth it.
I see it more like getting two qbs with one first round pick, beats getting only one. but thats just me bro.

now if gino (or anyone) was clear and away worth 1 overall then nix all the trade talk.
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Old 01-07-2013, 11:08 AM   #193
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I see it more like getting two qbs with one first round pick, beats getting only one. but thats just me bro.

now if gino (or anyone) was clear and away worth 1 overall then nix all the trade talk.
You're stupid then.

You are using 2 picks.

You aren't trading the #1 pick for the #13 pick.

You are trading the #1 pick for a QB plus the #13 pick.

Notice the 2 picks?
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Whatever it takes. Trade the entire draft, get this guy in here now. Hed be tremendous in with Reid
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