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Old 01-07-2013, 07:18 AM  
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Bucs not planning to extend Josh Freeman

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...mans-contract/

According to Rick Stroud of the Tampa Bay Times, the Bucs wonít be extending Freemanís contract, which expires after the 2013 season. And as Stroud explains it, the decision not to sign Freeman to a new deal could be part of a plan by coach Greg Schiano, who inherited Freeman, to get his own quarterback. And Freeman may change Schianoís mind only by playing so well this season that Freeman leaves the Bucs with no other option than to use the franchise tag or sign him to a long-term deal.

One possibility would be to apply the non-exclusive tag and to see if anyone is willing to sign Freeman to an offer sheet and give up a pair of first-round picks. That would enable the Bucs to pull a reverse Keyshawn, giving up a player and getting two first-round picks 14 years after they gave up two first-round picks to get Keyshawn Johnson from the Jets.

The Bucs likely would settle for less, since the alternative will be to let Freeman walk away.
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Old 01-07-2013, 08:30 PM   #436
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So...you ****ing retard, per your argument, Everett Golson > Geno Smith.
Your argument is a Freshman? Really?
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Old 01-07-2013, 08:30 PM   #437
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Well to be fair that means that if AJ was coming out this year he should be the #1 QB.
I must say though... I'm warming up to AJ a lot. I didn't know he could throw accurately like that.
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Old 01-07-2013, 08:30 PM   #438
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Well to be fair that means that if AJ was coming out this year he should be the #1 QB.
There were whispers that he would go pretty high if he did.
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Old 01-07-2013, 08:31 PM   #439
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Winning doesn't matter now?

43 years baby!
Ken Dorsey, Tim Tebow, Danny Wuerfel, Jason White, Kellen Moore, Colt McCoy, Vince Young.

All those guys were big winners in college football. How did their NFL careers turn out?

Hell Landry Jones has more wins than any QB in this class throughout his college career. You think that makes him the best QB in this class?
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Old 01-07-2013, 08:31 PM   #440
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Your argument is a Freshman? Really?
Why don't you go FAP to Kellen Moore you ****ing retard.
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Old 01-07-2013, 08:31 PM   #441
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Also, lets not forget that the wins argument started with ripping on Geno for the bowl game followed by mentioning Wilson wasn't in one ect. I don't want to put words in people's mouths, but I don't think anyone here really thinks the guy with the most wins is the better prospect.
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Old 01-07-2013, 08:31 PM   #442
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Ken Dorsey, Tim Tebow, Danny Wuerfel, Jason White, Kellen Moore, Colt McCoy, Vince Young.

All those guys were big winners in college football. How did their NFL careers turn out?

Hell Landry Jones has more wins than any QB in this class throughout his college career. You think that makes him the best QB in this class?
To be fair. Tim Tebow has 1 more playoff win than the Chiefs in the last 19 years.
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Old 01-07-2013, 08:31 PM   #443
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I must say though... I'm warming up to AJ a lot. I didn't know he could throw accurately like that.
Not that hard when you have forever to sit in the pocket.

Alabama has one of the best offensive line's I've ever seen in college football.
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Old 01-07-2013, 08:32 PM   #444
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I must say though... I'm warming up to AJ a lot. I didn't know he could throw accurately like that.
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There were whispers that he would go pretty high if he did.
Yeah, he is better then I though he was originally. I still wouldn't want him over Geno or Wilson.
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Old 01-07-2013, 08:34 PM   #445
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Murray isn't coming out now.

I think Geno's throws on average have been meant to be floated in.
I know Murray is staying in school, hence the reason I said I "wanted" (that's past tense, not passed tents) to see Murray in the mix, side by side comparison in the combine.
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Old 01-07-2013, 08:42 PM   #446
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Old 01-07-2013, 08:42 PM   #447
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You forget list that Arkansas lost their 3 best WR's and their best DL.

But yet Tyler Wilson still looked very good this year.
I didn't forget those things. They've already been discussed.
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Old 01-07-2013, 08:53 PM   #448
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I know Murray is staying in school, hence the reason I said I "wanted" (that's past tense, not passed tents) to see Murray in the mix, side by side comparison in the combine.
My bad.
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Old 01-07-2013, 08:54 PM   #449
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You forget list that Arkansas lost their 3 best WR's and their best DL.

But yet Tyler Wilson still looked very good this year.
He also got one of the best RB's in the SEC back, and has Cobi Hamilton who's projected to be a second rounder.
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Old 01-07-2013, 08:57 PM   #450
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Wilson has good accuracy. Despite losing his 3 best WR's to the NFL and coach to stupidity, he still kept his completion % above 60..with shit. His best WR was a dropfest too. Places the ball where only his receivers can catch it most of the time. Even through all of his, had Arkansas as a top 25 passing team.Consistently threw it behind his wr and hung guys out to dry by staring down his first read against LSU

He stands tall in the pocket and keeps his eyes downfield throughout the play. Not afraid to take a hit. Didn't in the LSU tape, threw it short and relied on YAC whole first half, didn't complete a ball over 8 yards the entire first half

Can move through the pocket and escape the rush. While running he makes solid throws on the run which helped him tremendously.

Undisputed leader of the team and the coach on the field. Is said to be a student of the game and a film junkie.

Good size at 6'3" 220 lbs.

Does a decent job reading defenses. Biggest struggle was against certain blitzes.

Has shown ability to make any pass and has made some good passes off his back foot. Velocity is good on his passes.

Played well against top defenses which says a lot, especially this year.Did not play well againt top d's this year, consistently

Has a good release, but weird throwing motion, kind of like Phillip Rivers.

Biggest question is obviously mechanical, but a good teacher (didn't we just hire one of those?) will do wonders to help that part of his game.
Just from what I saw and I'm a Hogs fan.
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