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Old 01-07-2013, 07:55 AM  
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Top DC Candidate

As I mentioned on this site days before any media last week, the top DC candidate for the Chiefs is going to be Monte Kiffin. He would also bring Rod Marinelli as his line coach.

I've been told it's his job to turn down and they think he wants it.

I think Kiffin has evolved some and doesn't run a straight Tampa 2 anymore, but and the personnel is an interesting fit.

Dorsey would be in huge consideration to be re-signed.

Hali, Dorsey, Poe, ?

Houston, ?, DJ - I think DJ would slide into the Derrick Brooks role.

I hated the hire at first, but I'm not completely against it now. I hate the Tampa 2 defense, but I think Kiffin recognizes he can't run that solely with the offenses of today.

Will be interesting. Just thought I'd share.
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Old 01-07-2013, 05:15 PM   #211
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Some of them think Cassel could be Trent Green 2.0.
You're being overly quiet on the Freeman front. Wanna trade for him?
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Old 01-07-2013, 05:17 PM   #212
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No, it won't be pretty.


Buts is not correct to think he has to be that type of prospect to be a successful franchise QB.
Then what is the definition of a Franchise QB?
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Old 01-07-2013, 05:19 PM   #213
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Then what is the definition of a Franchise QB?
So an Andrew Luck type prospect is your only definition of a franchise QB? He has to be a once in a generation type prospect to be considered a potential franchise QB?
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Old 01-07-2013, 05:24 PM   #214
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Then what is the definition of a Franchise QB?
IMO it's a QB that has proven to be good enough to build your franchise around. Though I'm not a big fan of the term "franchise".
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Old 01-07-2013, 05:25 PM   #215
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So an Andrew Luck type prospect is your only definition of a franchise QB? He has to be a once in a generation type prospect to be considered a potential franchise QB?
Whoa. There's a difference between a Franchise QB and a "potential" Franchise QB.

If you're choosing a QB #1 overall, you'd better be damn certain he's a franchise QB, or heads will roll.
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Old 01-07-2013, 05:26 PM   #216
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Whoa. There's a difference between a Franchise QB and a "potential" Franchise QB.

If you're choosing a QB #1 overall, you'd better be damn certain he's a franchise QB, or heads will roll.
Well, according to scouts and the intrawebs, there have only been 2 or 3 certain franchise QB's in the draft.


You evaluate, take the guy you like best, build around him and see what happens.

Then you hope and pray.
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Old 01-07-2013, 05:34 PM   #217
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No, it's the suggetion that NFL fandom includes "smart people".
Well yeah, there's that.
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Old 01-07-2013, 05:36 PM   #218
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No one said he "has to be Luck".

But it's foolish to think that any QB taken in the near future won't be compared to Luck. And it won't be pretty.
Actually, LOTS of people have said that.

Just about every "against" post here, every Mel Kiper or Todd McShay scouting report, every draft segment on NFLN starts with "well, he's no Andrew Luck".

It isn't just the fanbase. ESPN and NFLN are full of the same idiots.
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Old 01-07-2013, 05:41 PM   #219
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Whoa. There's a difference between a Franchise QB and a "potential" Franchise QB.

If you're choosing a QB #1 overall, you'd better be damn certain he's a franchise QB, or heads will roll.
"oh noes, it risky"

nothing is certain...for the love of god people...

what great hex will descend upon us if we dare to draft a QB #1 and he isn't John Montana Elway Brady the 3rd?

i can't believe people still think this way after 30 god damn years of absolute ****ing bullshit at the QB position...
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Old 01-07-2013, 05:42 PM   #220
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We all want a "franchise quarterback" so bad it hurts. I know I do. However, if the best talent evaluators in the game determine that no quarterback is worth the risk at one and a stud is available at another premier position that you need, you have to trust their evaluation and deal with it. Now, if this was Scott Pioli or Carl Peterson making the pick, you have every right to jump and scream and talk about aids trees and shit. This is a new dawn, a new day though. I am on board until this regime proves otherwise.
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Old 01-07-2013, 05:44 PM   #221
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Whoa. There's a difference between a Franchise QB and a "potential" Franchise QB.

If you're choosing a QB #1 overall, you'd better be damn certain he's a franchise QB, or heads will roll.
I think now a days with the structure of the slotting system for draft picks, it allows to get away from a mistake in the top 10 easier
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Old 01-07-2013, 05:45 PM   #222
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I think now a days with the structure of the slotting system for draft picks, it allows to get away from a mistake in the top 10 easier
You're right, it does, but you can't just waste the number one pick on a long shot.
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We all want a "franchise quarterback" so bad it hurts. I know I do. However, if the best talent evaluators in the game determine that no quarterback is worth the risk at one and a stud is available at another premier position that you need, you have to trust their evaluation and deal with it. Now, if this was Scott 'Team-killer' 'Team-killer' Pioli or Carl Peterson making the pick, you have every right to jump and scream and talk about aids trees and shit. This is a new dawn, a new day though. I am on board until this regime proves otherwise.
"worth the risk"

but there's no risk in drafting another ****ing LB when you have the worst collection of QB in the league?

sorry, their job is to identify the best QB in this draft AND DRAFT HIM

period

after 30 years, it is time to AT LEAST TRY ONCE
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You're right, it does, but you can't just waste the number one pick on a long shot.
so risky....oh no
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You're right, it does, but you can't just waste the number one pick on a long shot.
But with a guy like Reid and no clear cut no 1 player anywhere, and if you cant trade out then we need the most value at no 1 and thats QB
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