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Old 01-07-2013, 07:55 AM  
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Top DC Candidate

As I mentioned on this site days before any media last week, the top DC candidate for the Chiefs is going to be Monte Kiffin. He would also bring Rod Marinelli as his line coach.

I've been told it's his job to turn down and they think he wants it.

I think Kiffin has evolved some and doesn't run a straight Tampa 2 anymore, but and the personnel is an interesting fit.

Dorsey would be in huge consideration to be re-signed.

Hali, Dorsey, Poe, ?

Houston, ?, DJ - I think DJ would slide into the Derrick Brooks role.

I hated the hire at first, but I'm not completely against it now. I hate the Tampa 2 defense, but I think Kiffin recognizes he can't run that solely with the offenses of today.

Will be interesting. Just thought I'd share.
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Old 01-07-2013, 06:21 PM   #271
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I don't think there's any way that one of the quarterbacks in the 2013 draft doesn't have the potential to be a franchise QB. Maybe it's Geno Smith. Maybe it's Tyler Wilson. Maybe it's (probably not) Matt Barkley. Maybe it's somebody else.

Their job is to figure out who that guy is and take him. No excuses.

And there are QBs in this draft equivalent to or better than Bradford or Stafford or Palmer, guys who all went #1, guys who've all played well, guys who were not expected to be the next Peyton Manning or Andrew Luck. But guys who were worthy of the #1 pick.

I've said it before, you can't go into the pick expecting hall of fame talent. Because if that's the bar you set, then you you can't draft any position. Because maybe there isn't a Manning in this draft (or is there? let's see how February goes), but there also isn't a Pace or a Suh or a Charles Johnson or a Derrick Thomas. Hell, people are even talking about drafting the new Aaron Curry in the top 10, once tonight's game is over.
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Old 01-07-2013, 06:21 PM   #272
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This is the same guy that crucified people for not wanting to take Sanchez, Clausen, and Gabbert.
Oh wow. That's just a hotbed of garbage.
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Old 01-07-2013, 06:22 PM   #273
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Why do people keep bringing up Akili Smith as if it were some franchise-killing catastrophe?

Smith was drafted in 1999. The Bengals have drafted Carson Palmer AND Andy Dalton since then. Seems like they get it.
we've haven't drafted any of these busts...so are we any better off?

no

you draft a QB

if he fails, you draft another one

you don't ever stop
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Old 01-07-2013, 06:23 PM   #274
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I don't think there's any way that one of the quarterbacks in the 2013 draft doesn't have the potential to be a franchise QB. Maybe it's Geno Smith. Maybe it's Tyler Wilson. Maybe it's (probably not) Matt Barkley. Maybe it's somebody else.

Their job is to figure out who that guy is and take him. No excuses.

And there are QBs in this draft equivalent to or better than Bradford or Stafford or Palmer, guys who all went #1, guys who've all played well, guys who were not expected to be the next Peyton Manning or Andrew Luck. But guys who were worthy of the #1 pick.

I've said it before, you can't go into the pick expecting hall of fame talent. Because if that's the bar you set, then you you can't draft any position. Because maybe there isn't a Manning in this draft (or is there? let's see how February goes), but there also isn't a Pace or a Suh or a Charles Johnson or a Derrick Thomas. Hell, people are even talking about drafting the new Aaron Curry in the top 10, once tonight's game is over.
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Old 01-07-2013, 06:24 PM   #275
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I don't think there's any way that one of the quarterbacks in the 2013 draft doesn't have the potential to be a franchise QB. Maybe it's Geno Smith. Maybe it's Tyler Wilson. Maybe it's (probably not) Matt Barkley. Maybe it's somebody else.

Their job is to figure out who that guy is and take him. No excuses.

And there are QBs in this draft equivalent to or better than Bradford or Stafford or Palmer, guys who all went #1, guys who've all played well, guys who were not expected to be the next Peyton Manning or Andrew Luck. But guys who were worthy of the #1 pick.

I've said it before, you can't go into the pick expecting hall of fame talent. Because if that's the bar you set, then you you can't draft any position. Because maybe there isn't a Manning in this draft (or is there? let's see how February goes), but there also isn't a Pace or a Suh or a Charles Johnson or a Derrick Thomas. Hell, people are even talking about drafting the new Aaron Curry in the top 10, once tonight's game is over.
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Old 01-07-2013, 06:25 PM   #276
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we've haven't drafted any of these busts...so are we any better off?

no

you draft a QB

if he fails, you draft another one

you don't ever stop
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Old 01-07-2013, 06:27 PM   #277
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how can anyone even fathom going 2-14, having the #1 pick in the draft, and not drafting a QB?

how sick is that?

how perverse?
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Old 01-07-2013, 06:28 PM   #278
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This is the same guy that crucified people for not wanting to take Sanchez, Clausen, and Gabbert.


Geno, Wilson, Bray & Barkley are just as good of prospects as them, as well as Locker, Ponder, and even Bradford IMO.

I'm not understanding why this class is getting ripped by Kiper, McShay, etc...

Only thing I can think is because its coming off one of the best QB classes of all time.

But whatever. Guarantee Geno, Wilson & possibly Barkley & Bray will shoot up the boards after the combine and pro days. Kiper & company will mock Geno & Wilson in the top 10 eventually.
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Old 01-07-2013, 06:32 PM   #280
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From a financial standpoint, absolutely.

But if the player chosen doesn't become a Franchise QB, you've burned a minimum of two years, if not three.
Yes but if Geno or Wilson, after evaluation by Reid and the front office and scouts, is a franchise QB than you take him. Cant worry about the risk
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Why do people keep bringing up Akili Smith as if it were some franchise-killing catastrophe?

Smith was drafted in 1999. The Bengals have drafted Carson Palmer AND Andy Dalton since then. Seems like they get it.
They drafted Palmer four years later and Dalton eight years later.

How many playoff games did they win in the span 1999 and 2011?
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Geno, Wilson, Bray & Barkley are just as good of prospects as them, as well as Locker, Ponder, and even Bradford IMO.
Locker sucks and Ponder was called the worst QB in the NFL by Jimmy Johnson. Bradford certainly hasn't been "special".
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They drafted Palmer four years later and Dalton eight years later.

How many playoff games did they win in the span 1999 and 2011?
They win a few if Palmer's knee doesn't get destroyed IMO.
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They drafted Palmer four years later and Dalton eight years later.

How many playoff games did they win in the span 1999 and 2011?
How many did they win before that?

Drafting Akili Smith wasn't a "franchise killer" in any way, shape, or form.
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How many did they win before that?

Drafting Akili Smith wasn't a "franchise killer" in any way, shape, or form.
**** before Akili Smith they had David Klinger.
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