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Old 01-07-2013, 07:55 AM  
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Top DC Candidate

As I mentioned on this site days before any media last week, the top DC candidate for the Chiefs is going to be Monte Kiffin. He would also bring Rod Marinelli as his line coach.

I've been told it's his job to turn down and they think he wants it.

I think Kiffin has evolved some and doesn't run a straight Tampa 2 anymore, but and the personnel is an interesting fit.

Dorsey would be in huge consideration to be re-signed.

Hali, Dorsey, Poe, ?

Houston, ?, DJ - I think DJ would slide into the Derrick Brooks role.

I hated the hire at first, but I'm not completely against it now. I hate the Tampa 2 defense, but I think Kiffin recognizes he can't run that solely with the offenses of today.

Will be interesting. Just thought I'd share.
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Old 01-07-2013, 08:49 AM   #46
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Jackson is the guy I think would be the worst fit in a 4-3.

Powe/Poe and Dorsey (if resigned) could handle DT in a rotation.

I don't like Hali as a 4-3 OLB and he's not strong enough to play the end...
If he runs the under it is not a 4-3. It is an attacking defense using 3-4 personnel
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Old 01-07-2013, 08:50 AM   #47
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Told you guys this was coming. All signs were pointing to the 4-3 under which the likes of Kiffin, Jauron and Seattle runs.
Jauron runs a pure 4-3, I believe. The others run a hybrid.
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Old 01-07-2013, 08:51 AM   #48
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Jauron ran a under at times while at Cleveland but yes he is more of your standard 4-3 guy.

Kiffin is the one that runs the under more so than his old Tampa 2. Remember before he developed the Tampa 2, Kiffin was the master of the 4-3 under while at Nebraska and Arkansas. Pete Carroll learned the 4-3 under from Kiffin at Arkansas.

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Old 01-07-2013, 08:53 AM   #49
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I initially hated the idea of kiffin but it's growing on me.

Didn't realize he runs the under. It's not Tampa 2. It's a very aggressive defense. It's what Seattle runs. Best news is it would be an easy transition. It's basically a 4-3 that uses 3-4 personnel.

Now.. This isn't his baby. Kiffin adapted to this defense and struggled with it at USC. But I love the scheme for kc.
So he abandoned the Tampa 2? I had not heard that.

If he's running the under, well...

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After listening to folks over the weekend and looking at a lot of the chatter about front office and coaching staff candidates, I get the feeling they're going to try and build a defense the way Seattle has done it.
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Old 01-07-2013, 08:55 AM   #50
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We better get pretty damn bad ass on the Dline fast then.
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Old 01-07-2013, 08:56 AM   #51
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By the way, if we go with the under defense, either Hali or Houston will be playing DE but not both.

As others have stated, it uses 30 front personnel.

Chris Clemons is only about 260 but the guy opposite him runs like 320.
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Old 01-07-2013, 08:58 AM   #52
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Jauron ran a under while at Cleveland.

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Interesting. I'm okay with the defense. Figuring out if I'm OK with kiffi
n. I love Seattle defense and Cleveland defense was good considering the lack of talent.
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Old 01-07-2013, 08:59 AM   #53
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well, that sounds better than father time trying to run the tampa 2...

i'm still jumpy from PPSD....post-***** stress syndrome
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Old 01-07-2013, 09:00 AM   #54
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I think we have the DT's for it to work well. Poe as a 1-Tech and Dorsey (if we re-sign him) as the 3-Tech. This would be the best fit for Dorsey IMO... Remember Warren Sapp was tremendous under Kiffin as a 3-Tech. Rod Marinelli would be great for our DL!

Hali would likely play WDE and Houston would play the SLB spot that resembles as 3-4 SOLB.
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Old 01-07-2013, 09:00 AM   #55
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By the way, if we go with the under defense, either Hali or Houston will be playing DE but not both.

As others have stated, it uses 30 front personnel.

Chris Clemons is only about 260 but the guy opposite him runs like 320.
If this is true, Hali is the natural fit...he's played DE before and he's not the ascending pass rusher. I want Houston able to fly and crush Manning's neck into the ground...
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Is the Denver set up considered a 4-3 under?
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Old 01-07-2013, 09:04 AM   #57
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Old 01-07-2013, 09:07 AM   #58
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So then he'd roll with a d-line like this?

Poe - Dorsey - Hali?
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I love Seattle defense and Cleveland defense was good considering the lack of talent.
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