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Old 01-07-2013, 08:55 AM  
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Top DC Candidate

As I mentioned on this site days before any media last week, the top DC candidate for the Chiefs is going to be Monte Kiffin. He would also bring Rod Marinelli as his line coach.

I've been told it's his job to turn down and they think he wants it.

I think Kiffin has evolved some and doesn't run a straight Tampa 2 anymore, but and the personnel is an interesting fit.

Dorsey would be in huge consideration to be re-signed.

Hali, Dorsey, Poe, ?

Houston, ?, DJ - I think DJ would slide into the Derrick Brooks role.

I hated the hire at first, but I'm not completely against it now. I hate the Tampa 2 defense, but I think Kiffin recognizes he can't run that solely with the offenses of today.

Will be interesting. Just thought I'd share.
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Old 01-07-2013, 10:39 AM   #76
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I wouldn't be so sure. In a 2-gap 4-3, you could play Jackson at DE and run Houston behind him at OLB.

I guess we'll see.
I think this is a terrible idea.

You cannot have 0 pass rush coming from a DE spot in the 4-3.

Nor can you have a guy 270 lbs in coverage like Houston.

Houston has to play DE in the 4-3. Period.
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Old 01-07-2013, 10:39 AM   #77
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We've got to cut Tyson Jackson. He's a 3-4 end due $17 million. And it took him too ****ing long to start showing anything in the damn 3-4. He's got to go.
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Old 01-07-2013, 10:39 AM   #78
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We've got to cut Tyson Jackson. He's a 3-4 end due $17 million. And it took him too ****ing long to start showing anything in the damn 3-4. He's got to go.
Yup.

I see no place for him here in a 4-3.

In a 3-4 he could be a backup, but too expensive for that.

Bye.
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Old 01-07-2013, 10:41 AM   #79
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Feel free to destroy it....but what about a defensive line like this?

Poe - Powe - Dorsey - Hali
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Old 01-07-2013, 10:41 AM   #80
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Might well be able to renegotiate that contract with Jackson and keep him.
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Old 01-07-2013, 10:43 AM   #81
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So could somebody please assure me that this switch doesn't mean we'll waste the #1 overall pick on somebody for the 4-3?

We're taking Geno, right? We're taking a QB?

Please say yes.
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Old 01-07-2013, 10:44 AM   #82
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I would HATE this ugh.

I don't mind the move to the 4-3, in fact I welcome it. But hiring a 73 year old man who has run the Cover 2 predominantly?

I see people talking about a Seattle blueprint, but do you guys really expect a 73 year old to adapt and change the core principles of his defense?

Hope I'm wrong.
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Old 01-07-2013, 10:45 AM   #83
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In reality Poe may be a perfect fit for the SDE spot.

RUSH who do you think taught Carroll the 4-3 under... It was that old geezer Kiffin. He was the master of the under before he developed the Tampa 2.
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Old 01-07-2013, 10:45 AM   #84
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Might well be able to renegotiate that contract with Jackson and keep him.
I would. He's not going to garner much interest on the market, particularly if we cut him.

Was he a DT at LSU?
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Old 01-07-2013, 10:46 AM   #85
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In reality Poe may be a perfect fit for the SDE spot.
Something like this?

Poe - Powe - Dorsey - Hali?

Houston - ??? - DJ?
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Old 01-07-2013, 10:46 AM   #86
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Gotcha. I still think Jackson is gone. Dorsey would be a good fit....but only if he comes back under a better contract. Are you looking for more of a run stuffer in Jackson's spot or a pass rusher?

I'm obviously not familiar with the defense.
Looking for a guy that can eat space and split double teams. Basically a better version of Tyson Jackson...
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Old 01-07-2013, 10:49 AM   #87
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I think this is a terrible idea.

You cannot have 0 pass rush coming from a DE spot in the 4-3.

Nor can you have a guy 270 lbs in coverage like Houston.

Houston has to play DE in the 4-3. Period.
Houston and Hali both at DEs isn't an option. They'll get eaten alive against the run.
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Old 01-07-2013, 10:49 AM   #88
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Yup.

I see no place for him here in a 4-3.

In a 3-4 he could be a backup, but too expensive for that.

Bye.
If Jackson is a backup in the 3-4, he's a backup in the 4-3 under.
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I would HATE this ugh.

I don't mind the move to the 4-3, in fact I welcome it. But hiring a 73 year old man who has run the Cover 2 predominantly?

I see people talking about a Seattle blueprint, but do you guys really expect a 73 year old to adapt and change the core principles of his defense?

Hope I'm wrong.
Well, the reports are the he has already abandoned the Cover 2 and has been running the 4-3 under since Tennessee.

If that's the case, he changed his core principles a few years ago already.
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Old 01-07-2013, 10:52 AM   #90
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In the under Houston is the SLB which basically a 3-4 OLB.
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