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Old 01-08-2013, 06:59 PM  
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Luke Joeckel may pique Chiefs’ interest at No. 1 overall

http://nfl.si.com/2013/01/08/luke-jo...-no-1-overall/

For as long as Luke Joeckel remains on the draft board in April, he’s likely to be seriously considered by whichever team happens to be on the clock.

The Chiefs, by virtue of holding the No. 1 overall pick, will have first crack at the standout Texas A&M offensive tackle. Joeckel finalized his plan Tuesday to enter the 2013 NFL Draft, according to multiple reports.

The 6-foot-6 Joeckel played a key role in Johnny Manziel’s sudden takeover of college football this season. Despite playing against elite SEC talent, week in and week out, Joeckel turned in a dominant 2012 and is considered to be, for now, the top available offensive lineman for the coming draft.

How strongly Kansas City leans toward Joeckel depends on a number of factors, not the least of which being Branden Albert’s pending free agency.

The Chiefs face the usual options with Albert set to hit the market: re-sign him, let him walk or slap the franchise tag on him. That third choice would cost the Chiefs just shy of $10 million, but it’s hard to see them allowing their starting left tackle to walk.

The variable that could push them toward that money-saving decision is Joeckel. If the Chiefs convince themselves in the coming couple of weeks that Joeckel is capable of filling Albert’s shoes, that swap may make sense for new head coach Andy Reid. Kansas City also might be intrigued by the prospect of Joeckel at left tackle and Albert at guard — the Chiefs need to address their interior line, too, now that guard Ryan Lilja has decided to retire.

Unfortunately for Reid and the Chiefs, the top of this year’s draft class does not have an obvious No. 1 pick — unlike the 2012 draft, where the Colts had their choice between Andrew Luck and Robert Griffin III. Given Kansas City’s obvious needs (quarterback, receiver and linebacker, for starters), that lack of a clear superstar has to be even more frustrating.

Which is why Joeckel has a shot to go No. 1, should Albert hit free agency and a huge K.C. roster hole suddenly meshes with the available draft talent.

Even if Joeckel slides past the Chiefs, though, he will find no shortage of teams interested in his talent — so much so, in a few cases, that the rest of the top 5 (Jacksonville, Oakland, Philadelphia and Detroit) might be able to swing a draft-day trade contingent on Joeckel’s availability.

But any of that quartet also could make a case for Joeckel early. Both the Jaguars and Raiders had huge issues at right tackle; the Eagles struggled all over their line (save for Evan Mathis), and are still awaiting Jason Peters’ return from an Achilles injury; and the Lions might be shorthanded, even with 2012 first-rounder Riley Reiff in tow, if Jeff Backus retires and Gosder Cherilus leaves in free agency.

All those teams will have to wait to see what the Chiefs do as a 2013 draft opener. Given Joeckel’s potential as an NFL lineman and the lack of elite prospects, a match could be made at No. 1 overall.
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Old 01-20-2013, 12:03 PM   #571
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I really don't want you guys to make a Jamarcus Russell mistake with Geno but hey, do what you gotta do.
Listen, I've been one of the most vocal advocates of being careful with the top pick over just blindly spending it on Geno. But one thing I know for sure:

Geno Smith >> Jamarcus Russell.

And I don't even let Russell's miserable pro career drive that judgement.
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Old 01-20-2013, 12:06 PM   #572
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Listen, I've been one of the most vocal advocates of being careful with the top pick over just blindly spending it on Geno. But one thing I know for sure:

Geno Smith >> Jamarcus Russell.

And I don't even let Russell's miserable pro career drive that judgement.
You hope...

See , Jr was so ****ing bad and lazy we ditched his ass early... But a mediocre QB like Cassell lingers for years like a bad fart... So you tell me... Which one is REALLY worse?
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Old 01-20-2013, 12:08 PM   #573
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I will go on record since we both need it...

I hope you get an all pro player for your team until he retires if you will wish the same for my Raiders.
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Old 01-20-2013, 12:08 PM   #574
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I really don't want you guys to make a Jamarcus Russell mistake with Geno but hey, do what you gotta do.
Dude, you spouting retarded shit on this board isn't going to make the Chiefs not draft Geno so he falls to the Raiders.

You stupid pricks are going to take Ezekiel Ansah with #3 when he runs a 4.5 40 at the combine. You'll be enamored with the fact that he came to BYU to run tack and play basketball and ended up at the DE position.

You ain't getting Geno.

We are.

Suck it.
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Old 01-20-2013, 12:09 PM   #575
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You hope...

See , Jr was so ****ing bad and lazy we ditched his ass early... But a mediocre QB like Cassell lingers for years like a bad fart... So you tell me... Which one is REALLY worse?
****stick was too stupid to know how bad Cassel was.
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Old 01-20-2013, 12:11 PM   #576
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That is my biggest unanswered question about him. If I knew for sure he had 75% of Russel Wilson's mental toughness, I'd be firmly among the rest of the resident screaming Geno groupies of the CP. That's why I'm reserving my judgement until after the combine.
So, how much mental toughness did you see in Wilson while he was at NC State? Or when he transferred to Wisconsin?

Or is this the post draft, Carroll actually letting there be a QB competition in Seattle hindsight type of thing?
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Old 01-20-2013, 12:12 PM   #577
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I will go on record since we both need it...

I hope you get an all pro player for your team until he retires if you will wish the same for my Raiders.
We don't need to wish. We're taking Geno and shoving him up your franchise's ass for the next decade.
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Ok Mother ****er... It's on now
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How does this have anything to do with my reply?!
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How does this have anything to do with my reply?!
probably not alot.. but I am drinking
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So, how much mental toughness did you see in Wilson while he was at NC State? Or when he transferred to Wisconsin?

Or is this the post draft, Carroll actually letting there be a QB competition in Seattle hindsight type of thing?
I honestly didn't follow RW in college. If I had I might have been on his bandwagon in last year's draft. All I know is I'm seeing a QB with poise and maturity of an experienced veteran and that impresses me. That said, I like coaches with 'attitude' and Carroll qualifies there, but it looks to me Wilson's self confidence and mental toughness is something he was born with. It's an intangible.
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HeLL yea... We have to buy the liquor on Saturday though
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