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Old 01-09-2013, 03:17 PM  
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Obama to issue executive order regarding guns?

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Vice President Joe Biden is meeting with victims of gun violence today. Speaking with reporters beforehand, Biden said President Obama may use an executive order to push through more gun control and Second Amendment restrictions. More from the Weekly Standard.

"The president is going to act," said Biden, giving some comments to the press before a meeting with victims of gun violence. "There are executives orders, there's executive action that can be taken. We haven't decided what that is yet. But we're compiling it all with the help of the attorney general and the rest of the cabinet members as well as legislative action that we believe is required."

Biden said that this is a moral issue and that "it's critically important that we act."

Biden talked also about taking responsible action. "As the president said, if you're actions result in only saving one life, they're worth taking. But I'm convinced we can affect the well-being of millions of americans and take thousands of people out of harm's way if we act responsibly."

We knew this was coming. The White House has been saying for a month that they are acting "quickly" on new gun control measures. Senator Dianne Feinstein's sweeping new gun control legislation hasn't even been introduced yet and Obama isn't the kind of president who has shown a willingness to wait on Congress.

If Obama pushes through new regulations using executive powers, the process will unfold in different parts. After an order is signed, the Department of Justice led by Attorney General Eric Holder, will be in charge of enforcement through the Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco and Firearms. Now, how far the order will go is the big question. You can bet it will ban semi-automatic rifles and large ammunition magazines, but how Obama grandfathers in old, lawfully purchases semi-automatic rifles remains unknown. Will he require citizens who already own these weapons to be fingerprinted as Feinstein's bill requires? Or will he go so far as confiscation as New York Governor Andrew Cuomo has suggested? Time will tell.
Can the SCOTUS overturn an executive order? (at work and don't hav ethe time to look it up)
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Old 01-09-2013, 06:47 PM   #61
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I stand by my statements. If Obama issues said executive orders, he would be circumventing the legislative process.

You are a ****ing idiot.
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Old 01-09-2013, 06:47 PM   #62
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Reading comprehension fail. The discussion is about Obama using executive orders to circumvent the 2nd Amendment. By using an executive order to ban certain types of weapons that are currently legal under the law, he would be circumventing the legislative process and violating the expressed will of the people.

Try to keep up.
JFC he doesn't have the power to do that.

It would be:
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sign an executive order instructing federal agencies to better enforce existing gun laws.
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Old 01-09-2013, 06:51 PM   #63
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JFC he doesn't have the power to do that.

It would be:
sign an executive order instructing federal agencies to better enforce existing gun laws.
BINGO. But that doesn't sound very sinister.
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Old 01-09-2013, 06:51 PM   #64
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Nicely done. So either Obama is a traitor by using an EO to repeal the 2nd Am, or if he doesn't, it is because he is too much of a wimp.
If Obama really thinks the problem could be fixed by new gun laws and his administration thinks they have the power to enforce gun laws because congress won't act and he doesn't is he a wimp?
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Old 01-09-2013, 06:52 PM   #65
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Funny you mention something that isn't even true.
Nope. It's true.
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Obama Administration issued a new directive stating that the traditional TANF work requirements can be waived or overridden by a legal device called the section 1115 waiver authority under the Social Security law (42 U.S.C. 1315).

In establishing TANF, Congress deliberately exempted or shielded nearly all of the TANF program from the section 1115 waiver authority. They did not want the law to be rewritten at the whim of Health and Human Services (HHS) bureaucrats. Of the roughly 35 sections of the TANF law, only one is listed as waiveable under section 1115. This is section 402.
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Anyway, the rant came in the context of some imaginary Obama gun ban--that he's circumventing the legislative process. Just wondering if I missed it on the news because I didn't see anything about a gun ban today.
No that's your interpretation. We know what he'd like to do. Whether he gets away with it is another matter.
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Old 01-09-2013, 06:53 PM   #66
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I stand by my statements. If Obama issues said executive orders, he would be circumventing the legislative process.

You are a ****ing idiot.
Oh, its a big IF. IF he does all this crazy shit you've dreamed up, then...

Hey, I completely agree with you.
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Old 01-09-2013, 06:53 PM   #67
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JFC he doesn't have the power to do that.

It would be:
Enforcing existing laws would be fine—but I doubt Obama wants just that.
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Old 01-09-2013, 06:55 PM   #68
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No one is saying that it has yet. However, Joe Biden has spoken of it as a possibility, hence the discussion.

Again, try to keep up.
He can only respond with knee-jerk reactions that are even bigger rants than the one's he's vilifying. He is so much like what he complains about the right.
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Old 01-09-2013, 06:57 PM   #69
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JFC he doesn't have the power to do that.

It would be:
Which, if true, is pretty stupid to not have done already. You're grasping here.
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Old 01-09-2013, 07:00 PM   #70
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Enforcing existing laws would be fine—but I doubt Obama wants just that.
I am saying I believe that is the extent he can do via EO.

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Which, if true, is pretty stupid to not have done already. You're grasping here.
I think people that believe he is going to ban guns via EO are grasping
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Wow!

Has anyone seen the Gun Hater's long list?

Under this section ...
Anti-Gun Corporations/Corporate Heads
The following listing includes the most prominent national corporations that have lent their corporate support to gun control initiatives or taken position supporting gun control.

Kansas City Chiefs
One Arrowhead Drive
Kansas City, MO 64129
(816) 924-9300
www.kcchiefs.com
Pro Football Team

Kansas City Royals

David Glass, CEO
P.O. Box 419969
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(816) 921-8000
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Hallmark Cards
( Just adding this because it's KC and interesting to me...there's more in KC too)
Irvine O. Hockaday, President & CEO
P.O. Box 418307
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Greeting Card Company

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I think people that believe he is going to ban guns via EO are grasping
Yeah that aint happening.

I'm talking about reinstating the assault weapons ban or 30 round mags.
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