****The OFFICIAL 2013 Mizzou Tigers Basketball Thread****

[Saul Good]

MIZ-SEC

[Dartgod]

Originally Posted by |Zach|

welp. heh.

Yep. Now I can do something productive during the 2nd half.

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by ChiTown

Might? I think FL might ultimately be a final 4 Team. Mizzou isn't in that class.

K-State, who is a fine but far from good team, knocked off Florida, so I'm not singing the latter's praises.

[PackerinMo]

Screw you guys for getting fancy on that possession.

[ChiTown]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

K-State, who is a fine but far from good team, knocked off Florida, so I'm not singing the latter's praises.

That's an anomaly. They would beat K-State 80+% of the time. Mizzou and K-State are about the same level of Team.

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by ChiTown

That's an anomaly. They would beat K-State 80+% of the time. Mizzou and K-State are about the same level of Team.

Fair enough. Nothing to argue with this statement.

[OmahaChief]

Losing Bowers and Dixon hurt but Haith just being a terrible coach overall is what really kills this team.

[Mizzou_8541]

Cut Phil Pressey. Just kidding. But seriously, this team sucks.

[|Zach|]

I wish Dixon wasn't an awful person.

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by OmahaChief

Losing Bowers and Dixon hurt but Haith just being a terrible coach overall is what really kills this team.

Mounting, convincing evidence for this.

[OmahaChief]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Mounting, convincing evidence for this.

It was pretty much proven at UM. I actually follow Miami as well so I watched a ton of their games and he was horrible. He actually had some talent there at least enough to beat the low level ACC teams he was getting run by. Nestor was the X and O guy last year which really helped cover up Haiths inability to coach. All he can do is recruit pretty well.

[PackerinMo]

Hate to say it but this really reallllllly reminds me of the Quin Snyder days. His teams hot dogged it just like this.

[Stanley Nickels]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

The movement dies when they can't space the floor. They can't space the floor when Bowers isn't out there because frankly it was going to be Bowers and Dixon that created the space. When Haith lost his most creative scorer and now his 2nd most creative scorer...well what exactly is he supposed to do?

NWC has little in the way of talent or potential. He's too weak on the ball, his handles suck, his feet are slow. He's a less talented version of Matt Pressey. His struggles aren't on Haith unless you attribute them to the fact that Haith recruited and expected as much out of him as he has to begin with. Then again, Haith didn't expect NWC to play more than a supplemental role this season anyway. Dixon getting rapey really dicked up Haith's rotations.

Jankovic is a weapon on offense but he's not a low-post player. That's not his game and has never been his game. He's more of a Lyons/Bowers type player in that he's going to use his size to shoot over people and a surprisingly quick first step to beat them off the dribble. While he's tall, he's certainly not a thick kid; he's not going to bang in the post. He's a guy that's going to play a 'Euro' game (even though he's from Canada). He'll need time to develop the touch around the rim that Bowers has developed, but it took L-Bow 4 years to get there, why would we expect a Canadian Frosh to come pre-packaged with it?

And Ross is one of the top 3 long-range shooters on the team. His size/strength belies his shooting ability. His 35% shooting from 3 is more efficient than his 44% shooting from 2.

In short, I think virtually everything you've said in this post is wrong. Almost every single word of it.

Is there a single thing in this world that you're not an expert on? It's hard having a conversation with someone who thinks more of his opinion than anyone else's. I doubt I'll ever change your mind, but to address your points..

NWC is "a less-talented version of Matt Presey"? Are you ****ing kidding? Is that why scouts love his potential, despite his raw game, especially regarding his development as a slashing 1/2? He's having major growing pains, as I was very quick to point out, but his upside (according to numerous scouts, who rave about his handles and tenacity) is a less-skilled, slightly slower Tyreke Evans (and, I don't think "less-skilled, slighly slower" are really that damning when making a comparison to a guy like Evans).

I wasn't saying Jankovic is a post-player. I was concerned that he would be put into that position due to a lack of frontcourt depth. If anything, you're agreeing with my point. And I don't think Jankovic is much like Bowers at all, outside of physical characteristics. The "Euro" term has been insanely bastardized; "Euro-style game" is a commentary of the differences in team basketball styles, created as a direct comparison to the more star-oriented play of the NBA...now it seems to just be a catch-all for "tall, white guard". Even if you address the characteristics of a player in the Euro league, Jankovic doesn't fit the bill. He lacks lateral slashing ability, nor does he have the awareness to distribute when help D arrives.

My comments about Earnest Ross were at least partially as a result of posting while watching the game; I don't really feel that way, and the hyperbole was out of frustration. Picking a post apart in hindsight is convenient argument material, though.

I respect your opinions, and you're more than welcome to respond, but I'm not going to engage in this topic anymore, because I don't think you can be objective or respectful.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Worst ass kicking since Arkansas in '93?

[Mr_Tomahawk]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Worst ass kicking since Arkansas in '93?

I know, right? They look like complete shit!

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Missouri guards the player with the ball like he is a suicide bomber.