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Old 01-09-2013, 08:39 PM  
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***RYAN NASSIB***

...because Reid isn't going to "reach" for a QB in the 1st.


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Prospect: Ryan Nassib, QB, Syracuse Orange
Height: 6’2
Weight: 228 lbs.
Grade: 6.9 (Grading Scale)

Scouting Report

Athleticism:
+Underrated as an athlete, has the ability to tuck the ball and pick up first downs or get into the endzone
+Thick build, he can take a hit and get back up
+Moves well in the pocket, is able to side step and climb the pocket to avoid the pass rush
+Balanced in his movements, though he does not always reset his feet when trying to make a throw
-Listed at 6’2, and will need to measure out at that height for fear of dealing with the dreaded height questions that have plagued so many QB’s

Arm Talent:
+Has a very strong arm, can make any throw that a team needs him to
+Puts enough pace on the ball to push the ball to the boundary side outside the hash
+Can fit the ball into tight spaces due to his arm strength, can pick zone coverage when given the time
+Release is compact and quick, though it doesn’t always come from the same arm slot
+Will change his arm slot to fit the ball into a passing lane, this costs him little to no arm strength
-At times puts too much faith into his arm and will try and throw the ball through the defense rather than take the easy check down
-Only knows how to throw one type of pass and that’s the fast ball

Pocket Presence:
+Is more than willing to stand in the pocket and take a hit in order to deliver a pass
+Rarely drops his eye level when manuevering inside the pocket
+Good footwork to quicly move away from pressure
+Has experience dropping back from under center, working out of 3, 5, and 7 step drops
+Does well to sell the play-action fake coming away from center and turning his back to the defense

Command of Offense:
+Spent three years working under Doug Marrone and running an under center pro style offense
+Is able to get CB’s to bite on pump fakes and will look safeties off his read
+Unquestioned leader in the huddle, is one of the toughest players on the team and leads by example
+Is more than willing to put the entire offense on his shoulders
-Still developing the feel for when to check down or just throw the ball away, still believe his arm can make any play happen
-Locks on to primary read and will not progress fast enough

Overview:
No senior QB showed me more this season than Ryan Nassib, his growth and command of this team is the illustration of a what a true field general is. Nassib was a guy I wasn’t completely sold on coming into his senior year but he showed me enough tell me that he deserves the benefit of the doubt.

He needs to go to a team that has a strong offensive coordinator and QB coach who can help continue his development and help him smooth out some of his rougher edges. Nassib needs to continue to learn how to go through progressions and work on identifying the defense pre-snap so he knows what to do with the ball post-snap.

In the end Nassib gives you a QB with that classic gun slinger mentality. He’s going to make some throws that are going to put you in a position to win a game and he’s going to make some throws that could cost you a game. Up until this year you never knew which one of those throws you were going to get on any given drop back but now he’s taken that next step further and seems destined to become a starter in the NFL one day.

I’d put Nassib’s stock somewhere in the Round 2 to 3 range right now, but with the way QB’s are valued he could find himself closer to pick 32 than to pick 64.

Scouting Notes

Ryan Nassib v. Northwestern
-good size for position
-shows a clean, quick release
-hits tight end over the middle, shows nice zip
-throws on the run to the right, delivers a nice ball for big gain
-looked over his available WR to the left, delivers a strike

Ryan Nassib v. USC
- 3rd and Short- his reads are covered and backside pressure comes, runs out of the pocket, throws the ball as he is being hit right to a USC defender – Really poor decision
– Rolls out to his right has WR wide open, but doesn’t reset and misses the target high – Not a good start
– Three step drop, needs to get rid of ball, but he pump fakes and gets sacked
– Has little to no touch on short/intermediate passes, winds up like an outfielder throwing the ball and throws it as hard as he can

Ryan Nassib v. Rutgers
-Great level throw over linebackers, delivering high with velocity
-Can hold the ball too long when initial read struggles to get open
-Over-trusts first read a little long at times, needs to progress by reading DBs
-Anticipates receiver routes/breaks very well, high velocity
-Showcasing fantastic arm strength consistently
-Better than usual velocity control in the middle of the field
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Old 01-10-2013, 05:45 AM   #31
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I watched tape of some of his games. Not impressed.

From what I've seen I like Zac Dysert more.
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Old 01-10-2013, 05:56 AM   #32
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Old 01-10-2013, 06:10 AM   #33
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Being from syracuse i have watched all the games, wouldnt mind taking him early 2nd round, bring in a vet and let trick shot tanney be the 3rd....
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Old 01-10-2013, 06:24 AM   #34
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Nassib is going to the Bills. You saw it here first. Not that it was a giant leap or anything.
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Old 01-10-2013, 06:27 AM   #35
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Nassib is going to the Bills. You saw it here first. Not that it was a giant leap or anything.
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Old 01-10-2013, 06:40 AM   #36
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Every time a college coach comes up to an NFL team people think he will draft his old players early. Clausen to KC because of Weis, Taylor Mays to Seattle in the first, etc. Late round picks have better chances.
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Old 01-10-2013, 07:28 AM   #37
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Old 01-10-2013, 07:30 AM   #38
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...because Reid isn't going to "reach" for a QB in the 1st.

Then fire up the banners again...

No need to continue being the chiefs...

Reid has a very short honeymoon. Either he gets us a QB and tries to build a winner or he can get the **** out already...
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Old 01-10-2013, 11:39 AM   #39
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Old 01-10-2013, 11:48 AM   #40
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Being from syracuse i have watched all the games, wouldnt mind taking him early 2nd round, bring in a vet and let trick shot tanney be the 3rd....
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No. They tried to give him more responsibility early in the season and he was stinking it up. They Cassel'd him and they started winning. He's a game manager...at the college level no less. No.
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Old 01-10-2013, 12:09 PM   #42
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I'm a big Ryan Nassib fan.

But I'm a bigger Geno Smith/Tyler Wilson fan.
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You can say its going to be a reach for a QB at #1 and it will all be disproven by the draft picks. If someone with a limited history like Tannehill can be the #8 pick, all bets are off. I believe Andy Reid is going to want to have the best prospect available in the draft and won't get there waiting until round 2.
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Old 01-10-2013, 05:56 PM   #44
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Had a guy I know in the league refer to Ryan Nassib as a "raw Tyler Wilson with less arm strength" for what that's worth.
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Old 01-22-2013, 12:09 AM   #45
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Good article on Nassib.

Like McCarthy, Nassib gets Hackett crash course
By Tyler Dunne of the Journal Sentinel Jan. 22, 2013
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Mobile, Ala. --- Ryan Nassib is in good company this off-season. Just ask Mike McCarthy.

In preparation for Senior Bowl week -- and eventually the NFL draft --- the Syracuse quarterback has been training with Paul Hackett. That's the same Paul Hackett who served as a mentor of sorts to the Packers' head coach at the University of Pittsburgh and then the Kansas City Chiefs. McCarthy was drawn to Hackett's extreme attention to detail, the unique way he broke down the quarterback position.

At Syracuse, Nassib played underneath Hackett's son, Nathaniel. And now, still at Syracuse, he's working with Paul to help differentiate himself amongst a quarterback class very much up for grabs. When Nassib told Nathaniel -- his offensive coordinator at Syracuse -- that he was training with Paul, son had a puzzled reaction.

He said, You sure? I dont know if you know what youre getting yourself into. Hes got nothing else to do,'" Nassib said.

Paul Hackett, who last coached with the Oakland Raiders in 2010, spends time with Nassib a week at a time. The two meet in the morning from 8 to 11:30 a.m. to watch film and dissect plays. Nassib lifts weights, runs and then it's off to the field.

"He loses track of time sometimes," Nassib joked. "But were out there for a bit."

Nassib said he has a playbook "about that big," outstretching his index finger and thumb. Yes, he has seen film of Joe Montana, the same dropbacks and throws that once captivated McCarthy in person when he was with Hackett in Kansas City. Nassib said Montana was even in "those old gray shorts." After developing as a quarterback under Nathaniel, Nassib is now seeing the root of all those concepts.

Pauls a riot. I mean he knows so much stuff that a lot of it, you really need to take a second and go, What the heck did he just say?" Nassib said. "Hes a great coach. Hes teaching me a lot.

One thing hes been coaching me up on the most is making adjustments on the fly. I mean, three years with Nate Hackett and we have our way of doing things. But when (Paul and I) go to work out, hell say, I want you to throw this route using this footwork instead. Stuff like that. That work has translated to here. Some plays were running with the Raiders now are some plays we ran but we ran them differently.

Three years with Hackett's son may be one of the biggest reasons Nassib is in Mobile, too. In college, Nassib often spent time with the offensive coordinator and Doug Marrone when the two coaches put the game plan together. He passed for 3,749 yards, 26 touchdowns and 10 interceptions this past season.

Whether all this Hackett exposure has a McCarthy-like effect on Nassib remains to be seen. He has worked his way into the discussion of this year's top quarterback prospect, though admits he'll need to work on his deep ball to impress scouts.

At Syracuse, Nassib ran a version of the New Orleans Saints offense, where Marrone once served as offensive coordinator. Through his three years as the Orange's starter, Nassib said he watched a lot of film of Drew Brees, trying to emulate his game. He admits he's "nowhere near" Brees, but believes they do have similar games.

I feel that I have a great feel for the West Coast offense, a pro-style offense," Nassib said. "I feel that Im pretty dangerous in that system."

He wouldn't mind sticking around Upstate New York, either. The younger Hackett followed Marrone to the Buffalo where he's now the Bills' offensive coordinator.

"Would it be great to go play for Coach Hackett? Absolutely," Nassib said. "Just because I love the guy so much and hes such a phenomenal coach. ...I want to put my stuff on the field and attract some other teams but if Buffalo falls into the mix, its a plus.

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