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Old 01-09-2013, 08:39 PM  
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***RYAN NASSIB***

...because Reid isn't going to "reach" for a QB in the 1st.


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Prospect: Ryan Nassib, QB, Syracuse Orange
Height: 6’2
Weight: 228 lbs.
Grade: 6.9 (Grading Scale)

Scouting Report

Athleticism:
+Underrated as an athlete, has the ability to tuck the ball and pick up first downs or get into the endzone
+Thick build, he can take a hit and get back up
+Moves well in the pocket, is able to side step and climb the pocket to avoid the pass rush
+Balanced in his movements, though he does not always reset his feet when trying to make a throw
-Listed at 6’2, and will need to measure out at that height for fear of dealing with the dreaded height questions that have plagued so many QB’s

Arm Talent:
+Has a very strong arm, can make any throw that a team needs him to
+Puts enough pace on the ball to push the ball to the boundary side outside the hash
+Can fit the ball into tight spaces due to his arm strength, can pick zone coverage when given the time
+Release is compact and quick, though it doesn’t always come from the same arm slot
+Will change his arm slot to fit the ball into a passing lane, this costs him little to no arm strength
-At times puts too much faith into his arm and will try and throw the ball through the defense rather than take the easy check down
-Only knows how to throw one type of pass and that’s the fast ball

Pocket Presence:
+Is more than willing to stand in the pocket and take a hit in order to deliver a pass
+Rarely drops his eye level when manuevering inside the pocket
+Good footwork to quicly move away from pressure
+Has experience dropping back from under center, working out of 3, 5, and 7 step drops
+Does well to sell the play-action fake coming away from center and turning his back to the defense

Command of Offense:
+Spent three years working under Doug Marrone and running an under center pro style offense
+Is able to get CB’s to bite on pump fakes and will look safeties off his read
+Unquestioned leader in the huddle, is one of the toughest players on the team and leads by example
+Is more than willing to put the entire offense on his shoulders
-Still developing the feel for when to check down or just throw the ball away, still believe his arm can make any play happen
-Locks on to primary read and will not progress fast enough

Overview:
No senior QB showed me more this season than Ryan Nassib, his growth and command of this team is the illustration of a what a true field general is. Nassib was a guy I wasn’t completely sold on coming into his senior year but he showed me enough tell me that he deserves the benefit of the doubt.

He needs to go to a team that has a strong offensive coordinator and QB coach who can help continue his development and help him smooth out some of his rougher edges. Nassib needs to continue to learn how to go through progressions and work on identifying the defense pre-snap so he knows what to do with the ball post-snap.

In the end Nassib gives you a QB with that classic gun slinger mentality. He’s going to make some throws that are going to put you in a position to win a game and he’s going to make some throws that could cost you a game. Up until this year you never knew which one of those throws you were going to get on any given drop back but now he’s taken that next step further and seems destined to become a starter in the NFL one day.

I’d put Nassib’s stock somewhere in the Round 2 to 3 range right now, but with the way QB’s are valued he could find himself closer to pick 32 than to pick 64.

Scouting Notes

Ryan Nassib v. Northwestern
-good size for position
-shows a clean, quick release
-hits tight end over the middle, shows nice zip
-throws on the run to the right, delivers a nice ball for big gain
-looked over his available WR to the left, delivers a strike

Ryan Nassib v. USC
- 3rd and Short- his reads are covered and backside pressure comes, runs out of the pocket, throws the ball as he is being hit right to a USC defender – Really poor decision
– Rolls out to his right has WR wide open, but doesn’t reset and misses the target high – Not a good start
– Three step drop, needs to get rid of ball, but he pump fakes and gets sacked
– Has little to no touch on short/intermediate passes, winds up like an outfielder throwing the ball and throws it as hard as he can

Ryan Nassib v. Rutgers
-Great level throw over linebackers, delivering high with velocity
-Can hold the ball too long when initial read struggles to get open
-Over-trusts first read a little long at times, needs to progress by reading DBs
-Anticipates receiver routes/breaks very well, high velocity
-Showcasing fantastic arm strength consistently
-Better than usual velocity control in the middle of the field
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Old 02-08-2013, 02:05 AM   #76
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Yes....YEs...YESSSSS! Good man.



If anyone didn't know you were already the dumbest person on this forum, this certainly proved it beyond all doubt.
You forgot to bold the "in the later rounds" part. I have a feeling you don't actually know what that means.
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Old 02-08-2013, 02:14 AM   #77
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Meh. Speak your mind. You won't get him anyway. I don't care. I'd probably agree with you on some of it.
I think he benefited from 2 great receivers, and he actually hurt them more than anything. What he has going for himself is that he's tall, and has decent arm strength. But I see an inaccurate QB that has bad ball placement for his receivers. He's a little self obsessed I'd assume based on what I've seen. I just don't like him at all as a prospect. I'll elaborate more when the time comes. But I just see a lot more negatives than I do positives.
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Old 02-08-2013, 02:16 AM   #78
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Well you are on a forum with a photoshopped picture of him in a Chiefs jersey. So you are basically the Nsync fan equivalent to a Genonite.

http://secondroundstats.com/2013/02/...ics-breakdown/

This one shows how similar his passing metrics were to Luck's.
What does my avatar have to do with anything regarding Nassib. Geno looks great in that red.
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Old 02-08-2013, 02:45 AM   #79
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I'm not advocating for us to take this guy at 1 at all. He's in no way worth it. If we were to trade back into round 1 to take a QB, I think it would be Nassib.
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I am not a big fan of Nassib at all. Granted I've only watched about 2 games worth of him. I just don't come away impressed. His throwing motion gets elongated at times (not Tebow elongated, but somewhat). The biggest thing for me is his decision making though. Granted, that could be somewhat fixable, but that throwing motion also isn't going to help him in the NFL. DBs will pick up on it and I have a feeling he's going to throw a lot of picks at the next level.
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Old 02-08-2013, 01:17 PM   #82
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Keep reading on twitter and blogs how Chiefs are very intrigued with Nassib and how he is moving up as the #2 ranled QB behind Geno....

Did this guy show ANYTHING in the SR. bowl? Why are scouts so attracted to him...? Big Arm? Accurate? Smart? ...Pro System?

I don't get it.
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Keep reading on twitter and blogs how Chiefs are very intrigued with Nassib and how he is moving up as the #2 ranled QB behind Geno....

Did this guy show ANYTHING in the SR. bowl? Why are scouts so attracted to him...? Big Arm? Accurate? Smart? ...Pro System?

I don't get it.
I think a lot of it was Doug Marrone developing him. He has good tools. Just needs to work on his deep ball.
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Also interesting that Nassib only threw 2 INT's in his last 7 games. That's taking care of the ball all right.
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What does my avatar have to do with anything regarding Nassib. Geno looks great in that red.
My point was that you are obviously biased.
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Keep reading on twitter and blogs how Chiefs are very intrigued with Nassib and how he is moving up as the #2 ranled QB behind Geno....

Did this guy show ANYTHING in the SR. bowl? Why are scouts so attracted to him...? Big Arm? Accurate? Smart? ...Pro System?

I don't get it.
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Didn't realize that Doug Marrone changed the offenses entire scheme and Ryan Nassib learned it in 2 weeks.

Learning a completely different pro style offense so quickly will draw teams to him at the combine when they interview him. Strong football IQ.
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For those who watched him...who does he most resemble in the NFL?

Is he another noodle-armed QB?
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my opinion on who he resembles is phillip rivers but with a stronger arm and better mechanics but still a funky delievery
He doesn't have an elite arm but he's got a pretty strong arm
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He seems really good at going through his progressions.
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