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Old 01-09-2013, 08:39 PM  
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***RYAN NASSIB***

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Prospect: Ryan Nassib, QB, Syracuse Orange
Height: 6’2
Weight: 228 lbs.
Grade: 6.9 (Grading Scale)

Scouting Report

Athleticism:
+Underrated as an athlete, has the ability to tuck the ball and pick up first downs or get into the endzone
+Thick build, he can take a hit and get back up
+Moves well in the pocket, is able to side step and climb the pocket to avoid the pass rush
+Balanced in his movements, though he does not always reset his feet when trying to make a throw
-Listed at 6’2, and will need to measure out at that height for fear of dealing with the dreaded height questions that have plagued so many QB’s

Arm Talent:
+Has a very strong arm, can make any throw that a team needs him to
+Puts enough pace on the ball to push the ball to the boundary side outside the hash
+Can fit the ball into tight spaces due to his arm strength, can pick zone coverage when given the time
+Release is compact and quick, though it doesn’t always come from the same arm slot
+Will change his arm slot to fit the ball into a passing lane, this costs him little to no arm strength
-At times puts too much faith into his arm and will try and throw the ball through the defense rather than take the easy check down
-Only knows how to throw one type of pass and that’s the fast ball

Pocket Presence:
+Is more than willing to stand in the pocket and take a hit in order to deliver a pass
+Rarely drops his eye level when manuevering inside the pocket
+Good footwork to quicly move away from pressure
+Has experience dropping back from under center, working out of 3, 5, and 7 step drops
+Does well to sell the play-action fake coming away from center and turning his back to the defense

Command of Offense:
+Spent three years working under Doug Marrone and running an under center pro style offense
+Is able to get CB’s to bite on pump fakes and will look safeties off his read
+Unquestioned leader in the huddle, is one of the toughest players on the team and leads by example
+Is more than willing to put the entire offense on his shoulders
-Still developing the feel for when to check down or just throw the ball away, still believe his arm can make any play happen
-Locks on to primary read and will not progress fast enough

Overview:
No senior QB showed me more this season than Ryan Nassib, his growth and command of this team is the illustration of a what a true field general is. Nassib was a guy I wasn’t completely sold on coming into his senior year but he showed me enough tell me that he deserves the benefit of the doubt.

He needs to go to a team that has a strong offensive coordinator and QB coach who can help continue his development and help him smooth out some of his rougher edges. Nassib needs to continue to learn how to go through progressions and work on identifying the defense pre-snap so he knows what to do with the ball post-snap.

In the end Nassib gives you a QB with that classic gun slinger mentality. He’s going to make some throws that are going to put you in a position to win a game and he’s going to make some throws that could cost you a game. Up until this year you never knew which one of those throws you were going to get on any given drop back but now he’s taken that next step further and seems destined to become a starter in the NFL one day.

I’d put Nassib’s stock somewhere in the Round 2 to 3 range right now, but with the way QB’s are valued he could find himself closer to pick 32 than to pick 64.

Scouting Notes

Ryan Nassib v. Northwestern
-good size for position
-shows a clean, quick release
-hits tight end over the middle, shows nice zip
-throws on the run to the right, delivers a nice ball for big gain
-looked over his available WR to the left, delivers a strike

Ryan Nassib v. USC
- 3rd and Short- his reads are covered and backside pressure comes, runs out of the pocket, throws the ball as he is being hit right to a USC defender – Really poor decision
– Rolls out to his right has WR wide open, but doesn’t reset and misses the target high – Not a good start
– Three step drop, needs to get rid of ball, but he pump fakes and gets sacked
– Has little to no touch on short/intermediate passes, winds up like an outfielder throwing the ball and throws it as hard as he can

Ryan Nassib v. Rutgers
-Great level throw over linebackers, delivering high with velocity
-Can hold the ball too long when initial read struggles to get open
-Over-trusts first read a little long at times, needs to progress by reading DBs
-Anticipates receiver routes/breaks very well, high velocity
-Showcasing fantastic arm strength consistently
-Better than usual velocity control in the middle of the field
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Old 02-08-2013, 04:30 PM   #106
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Old 02-08-2013, 04:31 PM   #107
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Just got home. I'll be going back and fourth between Barkley's Junior and Senior games. But first I'm gonna work on Nassib for the next 2 or 3 hours.
nice looking forward to them.
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Old 02-08-2013, 04:55 PM   #108
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Just got home. I'll be going back and fourth between Barkley's Junior and Senior games. But first I'm gonna work on Nassib for the next 2 or 3 hours.
Watch the Louisville and MU games. Very good tape of what the kid can do.

Also, his WR's dropped a ton of passes. 2nd most of the QB's in this class (Glennon was first).
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Old 02-08-2013, 05:13 PM   #109
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Watch the Louisville and MU games. Very good tape of what the kid can do.

Also, his WR's dropped a ton of passes. 2nd most of the QB's in this class (Glennon was first).
Its because nassib feels the need to cannon arm every short pass
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Old 02-08-2013, 05:16 PM   #110
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i know it's almost taboo on this forum but i'm REALLY starting to get intrigued by Tyler Bray.
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Old 02-08-2013, 05:20 PM   #111
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Watch the Louisville and MU games. Very good tape of what the kid can do.

Also, his WR's dropped a ton of passes. 2nd most of the QB's in this class (Glennon was first).
Just finished the Mizzou game. Only 2 dropped passes in that game. I wanted to see him take a few more downfield shots. He finished 17 of 22 on passes under 10 yards. I have my chart set up by passes in each section of the field, and I use 0-10 yards, 11-20, and 21+. I count screens as part of the 0-10 yard range. But Nassib didn't use any screens that I recall from the Mizzou game. He did have 1 dropped interception. Nearly 2 but I only counted 1 of them.

I took note that he did an excellent job of looking off coverage and at times going through many reads. Had one TD in which he looked directly down the middle of the field then threw a quick pass to the far right for a TD (in which the WR ran in the last 10 yards).

Since you mentioned it I'll look at Louisville next.
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i know it's almost taboo on this forum but i'm REALLY starting to get intrigued by Tyler Bray.
Blah. I don't like that guy... Maybe I need to spend more time on him, but he's one of my least favorites of this entire class.
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Blah. I don't like that guy... Maybe I need to spend more time on him, but he's one of my least favorites of this entire class.
i didn't think much on him either but was just reading some negatives on him and watching a little bit and damn his arm is impressive. i know alot of people think he has the highest ceiling in the draft if he can put everything togeather and not be a dumbass. interesting to me for sure
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Old 02-08-2013, 05:28 PM   #114
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i didn't think much on him either but was just reading some negatives on him and watching a little bit and damn his arm is impressive. i know alot of people think he has the highest ceiling in the draft if he can put everything togeather and not be a dumbass. interesting to me for sure
Highest ceiling to me is either Geno or Glennon. The difference is I think Geno has the better chance of reaching that ceiling. Glennon is boom or bust.
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I think bray is the perfect mix of Glennon and Wilson into one. Give wilson a couple inches and glennon's arm and inconsitency and you have bray, although wilson has better pocket presence and is more mobile, but bray is not a statue like glennon and is more fluid in his footwork.. The big IF with bray is his maturity and if he'll pull his shit together and get serious about the game
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The three QB's in this draft that intrigue me the most are Geno, Wilson(King of Prussia, I got my eye on you) and Nassib. Hopefully one of these guys finds their way to KC. Not in favor of trading a pick for Alex Smith, been down that road with Cassel and Egoli.
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What I like about what Nassib did against Louisville was that it was against the 16th best pass D. Syracuse receivers are very average. At this point I still see a pretty average QB but has some pro style skills to work with. I'll try to fit in 4 more games before I go on to Barkley.

The opening play 45 yard bomb by Nassib vs Louisville is a completion but it reality it shouldn't be. It was badly underthrown.
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IMO Nassib has all the same tools as Barkley, but he has a much higher ceiling because Barkley is a finished product while Nassib can get much better in the NFL.
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Something I tried to use last night when attempting to find a common denominator when looking at QB's. The top 10 QB's in accuracy % of passes on 20 yards in 2012:

Aaron Rodgers
Peyton Manning
Cam Newton
Drew Brees
Russell Wilson
Matt Ryan
Tannehill
Stafford
Luck
Eli Manning

Some pretty good QB's there.

While the bottom 5 include

Ponder
Fitzpatrick
Weeden
Palmer
Big Ben (Bit of a surprise) but after Ben we have Gabbert, Dalton, Vick, Sanchez, Cassel

According to secondroundstats Nassib has the highest deep ball %. I'm trying to check those numbers and see where they're coming from.
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Old 02-08-2013, 06:20 PM   #120
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barkley was 58.38% on passes 20+ yards
nassib was 62.50%

wonder how that stakes up against the NFL QB's
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