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Old 01-12-2013, 11:13 PM  
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Manning's rag arm

Maybe he hasn't fully recovered from his time off. Maybe he comes back next year rejuvenated and on fire at age 37.

But today he was Mr. Dink and Dunk. He had a couple of 15 yard TDs that were nice, but they were placement throws, not lasers. On two throws late in the game, the pass to Stokely that was reviewed in the first overtime, and the game losing INT, he clearly didn't get as much on the ball has he wanted to. The mind was willing but the arm was a dish rag.

Maybe it was because it was late in the game, late in the season and in cold weather coming off an injury. But even ignoring his normal playoff chokatude, his arm was really sub par today.
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Old 01-12-2013, 11:33 PM   #16
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He doesn't throw the ball the way he used to. His WR's aren't as good as his heyday with the Colts, either, but he wasn't that good today. Not like his best days at all.
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Old 01-12-2013, 11:40 PM   #17
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Old 01-12-2013, 11:41 PM   #18
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Another thing was that the Ravens changed their coverage up. Manning mentioned this in his press conference. In the 2nd half they switched and went to a lot of 2 deep safeties and just had Pollard and Reed playing deep safety. They weren't going to let him go deep. You could see it too because they didn't blitz as much. I'm amazed it took the Ravens that long to figure it out.

That's what beats Manning... that's why Crennel usually did so well. You can't attack him, you gotta sit back and let him go into robot mode and dink and dunk and check off to runs. They only team that seems to be able to attack him and do it well is the Chargers.
Isn't this basically what the Chiefs did in that playoff game in 06? I think Law had 3 INTs and we still lost. Of course, our offense stunk it up badly that day.....
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Old 01-12-2013, 11:44 PM   #19
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Pretty much. Gunther was pretty disciplined that day. Manning ended up with an amazing completion percentage but not as many yards as you'd expect for that many passes, I do believe.
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Old 01-12-2013, 11:55 PM   #20
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Pretty much. Gunther was pretty disciplined that day. Manning ended up with an amazing completion percentage but not as many yards as you'd expect for that many passes, I do believe.
Manning had a 6.3 ypp and the Broncos had a total 4.6 ypa

Without reviewing the film, the Donks should have utilized more PA with Smash concepts (I'm a homer for them) and deep digs ( on the right side of the field offensively, as Cary Williams was playing on the left side and the Ravens LBs are relatively slow in their drops. THere were several instances in witch the Donks ran a levels concept( a staple in the Manning offense) in which Manning immediately went to the short in as opposed to the deep in/dig.

However, the Donks definitely abandoned a vertical PA or non PA passing game in the second half. Whether that is due to McCoy or Fox, IDK.
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Old 01-13-2013, 12:13 AM   #21
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Manning has thrown more wobble launchers this season than any other QB not named Cassel.
The revisionist history is hilarious. Manning was second to only Rodgers in accuracy on throws that traveled 20 yards or more this season.
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Old 01-13-2013, 12:18 AM   #22
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The revisionist history is hilarious. Manning was second to only Rodgers in accuracy on throws that traveled 20 yards or more this season.
Yes but the ball is not coming out at the same velocity as he used to have.
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Old 01-13-2013, 12:39 AM   #23
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Yes but the ball is not coming out at the same velocity as he used to have.
Who cares?

Fans love to overrate velocity. Most of all, fans used to horrible QB play. Broncos fans couldn't get enough of Cutler's velocity.
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Old 01-13-2013, 12:49 AM   #24
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Who cares?

Fans love to overrate velocity. Most of all, fans used to horrible QB play. Broncos fans couldn't get enough of Cutler's velocity.
2006 Peyton Manning probably wins the game today.
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Old 01-13-2013, 12:54 AM   #25
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2006 Peyton Manning probably wins the game today.
Anyone but Rahim Moore certainly wins the game today.
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Old 01-13-2013, 12:58 AM   #26
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The revisionist history is hilarious. Manning was second to only Rodgers in accuracy on throws that traveled 20 yards or more this season.
So...why didn't they even try one today?
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Old 01-13-2013, 01:02 AM   #27
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So...why didn't they even try one today?
No idea.
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Old 01-13-2013, 02:04 AM   #28
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Anyone but Rahim Moore certainly wins the game today.
Butthurt much?

Manning was garbage in OT.
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Old 01-13-2013, 03:18 AM   #29
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Not really, just playing your what-if game, like with 2006 Manning.

Here's another one: what if a ball coming out of a QBs hand while it's moving forward were a pass attempt, not a fumble?
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Old 01-13-2013, 05:33 AM   #30
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Not really, just playing your what-if game, like with 2006 Manning.

Here's another one: what if a ball coming out of a QBs hand while it's moving forward were a pass attempt, not a fumble?
What if you didn't cry like a little bitch?
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