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Old 01-13-2013, 09:27 AM  
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How many years left for our best players?

I know we are a very young team overall but the idea of "rebuilding" again that could take 3-4 years scares the shit out of me. I am impatient after 43 years of waiting for a SB appearance and 20 years for a playoff win.

I would hate to have our best players fizzle out in the prime of their careers. These are the only guys I care about at this point as superstars and I didn't include Eric Berry or Justin Houston due to their youth

Any guesstimates?

Brandon Flowers
Derrick Johnson
Tamba Hali
Brandon Albert
Jamaal Charles
Dwayne Bowe
Dustin Colquitt

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Old 01-13-2013, 11:55 AM   #46
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Brandon Flowers
- cornerbacks can have pretty long careers. I'm guessing another 6-7 years.

Derrick Johnson
- probably 3-5 (optimistically) at a high level. The biggest change he made during Haley's tenure that made him a better player is that he stopped running around blocks (over the top), and learned to run through gaps and use his speed to get to the ball carrier. So he doesn't get beat up nearly as much.

Tamba Hali
- 2-3 years. I don't know if we didn't begin to see his decline this year. He plays so damn hard, that it may wear the tread earlier than we'd like to admit.

Brandon Albert
- Assuming his back isn't an issue, we could easily get another 8-10 years. Linemen can play forever if they stay fit and aren't always hurt. But that's the big "if" isn't it?

Jamaal Charles
-2-3 years, sadly. Lots of injuries, lots of yardage.

Dwayne Bowe
- speed was never his game. Easily 6-8 more years (or more).

Dustin Colquitt
- he's a punter. He's a finesse, not a power, punter (though he could be if he wanted). Dude could play forever.
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Old 01-13-2013, 11:57 AM   #47
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I'd actually put Winston, Albert, and Bowe up there as well, if the two are retained.

Berry, Poe, Hudson, Houston, Asamoah have a chance as well.
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Old 01-13-2013, 11:57 AM   #48
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I love how in mentioning the span of our best players, many have to mention the punter!
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Old 01-13-2013, 11:58 AM   #49
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We have good players dude. Our QBs were shit. You can't judge the rest of this team based on SHITTY QB play.

Delude yourself all you want. Our QB sucked obviously but we have holes everywhere. Our defense was shredded constantly. Is that Matt Cassel's fault too? Was he having trouble tackling people?
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Old 01-13-2013, 12:11 PM   #50
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Delude yourself all you want. Our QB sucked obviously but we have holes everywhere. Our defense was shredded constantly. Is that Matt Cassel's fault too? Was he having trouble tackling people?
You are a tool

Our defense was put on the field way to much & the heart of the matter with the Ls building up they really didn't have a fight in the dog. So it all comes back to shitty QB play.
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Old 01-13-2013, 12:36 PM   #51
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I love how in mentioning the span of our best players, many have to mention the punter!
I was running out of people and didn't want to put Warpaint, Cheerleader Heather, or Mitch Holthus on the list
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Old 01-13-2013, 01:26 PM   #53
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We really don't have good players. we went 2-14. The "myth" that we have good players because of some weird pro bowl voting kink is still a myth. Our team sucked. Watching those games last night, I was blown away by how far away we are from even competing with them. (We know this already since we went 0-3 vs them this year as it was)
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Old 01-13-2013, 01:31 PM   #54
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I've said this before, but we were a very young team when Scooter took over.

We aren't any more. Most of our best players are in their primes or exiting them. There are only 2 guys on this roster that I see has having much room left for growth and the potential to be Pro-Bowl caliber players - Eric Berry and Dontari Poe.

Hali's already out of his prime and DJ's only a year or 2 behind that. Charles probably 3-4, Flowers and Bowe maybe 4-5 (though Flowers will probably start to decline sooner than that).

This isn't a 'young' team anymore. Scott ***** wasted 4 years of some great players careers.
whoa "flowers & bowe maybe 4 - 5" you got to be joking.

DJ, Colquitt & Hali are from an era that fits "4 - 5" but the rest have twice that amt in them, sans Jamaal, who it will be tough to gage. But I'm thinking Jamaal will play another 5 - 6 seasons.

There is time for a championship within this group.
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Old 01-13-2013, 01:35 PM   #55
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whoa "flowers & bowe maybe 4 - 5" you got to be joking.

DJ, Colquitt & Hali are from an era that fits "4 - 5" but the rest have twice that amt in them, sans Jamaal, who it will be tough to gage. But I'm thinking Jamaal will play another 5 - 6 seasons.

There is time for a championship within this group.
Prime years?

That's what I'm referring to. Flowers and Bowe may still be on the roster after 5 years, but we'll need to be looking for replacements well before that because they will both be declining (and possibly quickly) at that point in their careers.
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Old 01-13-2013, 01:39 PM   #56
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Prime years?

That's what I'm referring to. Flowers and Bowe may still be on the roster after 5 years, but we'll need to be looking for replacements well before that because they will both be declining (and possibly quickly) at that point in their careers.
Yep.


Which is why hitting on this franchise QB is so huge. You hit on that, you have some leeway in what you can start doing.


And I'm of the opinion that there are some next generation cornerstones here already, but not at the positions of guys named in the op.


Asamoah (who is underrated by the board), Hudson, Poe, Berry, Houston, can be the next level guys. You could throw Winston in there too.

****, looking at the guys we have on the roster, it's embarrassing at how badly we were this year. Coaching was criminal and guys underperformed at a high high rate.
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Old 01-13-2013, 03:06 PM   #57
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I didn't realize Tamba and DJ were 29 and 30 respectively. Time flies. I still would say that they both at their prime and barring injury, could maintain for 3-4 yrs before they start dropping off much. Especially with some coaching.
Maybe next year Detroit will hire a new head coach leaving Gunther available to return as LB coach. Having him coach our linebackers would be like having Picasso paint your kitchen!!
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I know we are a very young team overall but the idea of "rebuilding" again that could take 3-4 years scares the shit out of me. I am impatient after 43 years of waiting for a SB appearance and 20 years for a playoff win.

I would hate to have our best players fizzle out in the prime of their careers. These are the only guys I care about at this point as superstars and I didn't include Eric Berry or Justin Houston due to their youth

Any guesstimates?

Brandon Flowers
Derrick Johnson
Tamba Hali
Brandon Albert
Jamaal Charles
Dwayne Bowe
Dustin Colquitt

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Prime years?

That's what I'm referring to. Flowers and Bowe may still be on the roster after 5 years, but we'll need to be looking for replacements well before that because they will both be declining (and possibly quickly) at that point in their careers.
oh okay, well I am framing this more like "how many years can these guys go and still help this team win big".

As veterans they will help too, obviously in that area of grooming those replacements. This has been a huge hole in the Chiefs over the past decade, is that there have been so few talented draftees that could have been groomed by veteran players such as the OL Vermeil assembled, etc. Bowe had Eddie K for his guy, but that was about the end of it.

Also, we will see prolonged careers in skills positions because of the pussy changes Goodell made.
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