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Old 01-13-2013, 12:37 PM  
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Tony Sparano scheduled to interview Monday for OLine Job

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Per @mortreport, Tony Sparano is scheduled to interview Monday for the offensive line coach job with Kansas City Chiefs.



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Tony Sparano set to visit Andy Reid on Monday re: Chiefs O-line job after George Warhop decided to remain with Browns. #NFL32

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Old 01-13-2013, 04:41 PM   #166
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Because THEY know what the play called for? How the **** is this not evident? Yes, on many plays you can guess and be right about things... on many others you simply can't without knowing the playbook and blocking assignments.


Dude, it is easy as **** to tell if a LT is one on one with a guy in pass protection. Stop this shit.
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Old 01-13-2013, 04:42 PM   #167
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Continuity on the offense line is huge. Therefor, there isn't any reason not to either tag Albert and see about his back, or sign him if it checks out.
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Old 01-13-2013, 04:44 PM   #168
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I am not trying to rate Albert against the rest of the league, especially since I have a bias for Albert, given that I was the first person anywhere that was calling him a tackle in the draft.

But I am comparing him to Long, and Long is still more technically sound, but there's no way that Long is more than a marginal upgrade, if he is even an upgrade at all.

and If Albert really gets the technique down, this would not even be debatable.
Here is where we disagree, Long is a huge upgrade outside of a ZBS but I'll agree that he isn't worth the trouble if we stay zone blocking.

To me it all comes down to how much money Albert is going to want. I'd pay him top 10 even top 8 money but not top 5.
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Old 01-13-2013, 04:44 PM   #169
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I'd like to see Albert given a big contract with a big roster bonus due the third year.

That way, he gets a nice bump in pay to keep him happy and in town while giving the team the option to walk away if his back keeps him off the field.
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Old 01-13-2013, 04:44 PM   #170
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I may be wrong here, but isn't Long a free agent this year?

One thing I am sure of, though, Long is as overrated at LT as any in the last 20 years.
He completely manhandled Tamba Hali like a little doll.
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Old 01-13-2013, 04:45 PM   #171
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Dude, it is easy as **** to tell if a LT is one on one with a guy in pass protection. Stop this shit.
And again you show just how ****ing ignorant you are.
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Old 01-13-2013, 04:45 PM   #172
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Here is where we disagree, Long is a huge upgrade outside of a ZBS but I'll agree that he isn't worth the trouble if we stay zone blocking.

To me it all comes down to how much money Albert is going to want. I'd pay him top 10 even top 8 money but not top 5.
Dude take the homer glasses off.
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Old 01-13-2013, 04:47 PM   #173
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And again you show just how ****ing ignorant you are.


OK.

How many sacks do you think Albert allowed this year? Or are you just not smart enough to tell?
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Old 01-13-2013, 04:48 PM   #174
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It's interesting that anyone thinks Jake Long is even in play for the Chiefs. They won't even contact his agent, I guarantee it.

It's almost like...someone has a Jake Long bias...and a dream of Jake Long in red.
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Old 01-13-2013, 04:49 PM   #175
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I think Hudson is a quality C and we shouldn't give up on him.

You won't find many interior OL that have better fundamentals than him. He's going to be a solid and reliable OL for years to come.

This was one of the few Pioli draft picks that I actually thought was a good move.
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Old 01-13-2013, 04:50 PM   #176
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He completely manhandled Tamba Hali like a little doll.
And Hali has owned Ryan Clady.

Sometimes it just about how individuals match up with each other.

Hali has a nice initial burst, but he's more about power than speed, so he owns Clady, while Long is more physical, so he struggles against him.

There are, and have been, very few players that match up with both speed and power on either side.

Albert is still a work in progress, but has the physical attributes to eventually be that type of player.

Long doesn't.
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In pass protection, it's pretty easy to pick out who is assigned to block who.

It isn't rocket science.
Often it is. Sometimes it isn't. Depends on the play and the complexity of the blocking scheme. My point being, the ONLY people who can accurately create a metric for a given offensive line are the people inside that organization who know what was called and what the responsibilities were. Otherwise you are guessing. Most of those guesses will probably be right, but they are still guesses. If you look at an organization like PFF and how they handle their guesses you can see just how unscientific it really is.
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Often it is. Sometimes it isn't. Depends on the play and the complexity of the blocking scheme. My point being, the ONLY people who can accurately create a metric for a given offensive line are the people inside that organization who know what was called and what the responsibilities were. Otherwise you are guessing. Most of those guesses will probably be right, but they are still guesses. If you look at an organization like PFF and how they handle their guesses you can see just how unscientific it really is.
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THEREFORE ALL OPINIONS ARE FORFEIT!

WE CANNOT TELL IF ANYONE IS BETTER THAN ANYONE BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW ANYTHING.
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Old 01-13-2013, 04:52 PM   #179
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And I really hope Branden Albert's back problems are minor. It would ****ing suck ass if Albert's back problems turned into a problem like Jared Gaither's.
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OK.

How many sacks do you think Albert allowed this year? Or are you just not smart enough to tell?
No, it's obvious you are the one who isn;t smart enough to follow along. It has nothing to do with how smart I am, it has to do with INFORMATION I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO you ****ing moron. At best, I can make an educated guess. That's all anyone outside the Chiefs can do.
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