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New-Look Chiefs Turning Attention to NFL Draft

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The wholesale overhaul of the Kansas City Chiefs is nearly complete.

Andy Reid has been hired to replace Romeo Crennel as coach, and longtime Packers personnel man John Dorsey has replaced Scott ***** as general manager. Most of the assistant coaches are on board, and now the Chiefs can start turning their attention toward the rebuilding job.

That includes preparation for the NFL draft.

The Chiefs finished 2-14 last season, matching the worst record in their 53-year history. But the byproduct of all that on-field suffering is that they have the No. 1 pick for the first time, giving Kansas City a good place to start turning around the team.

"We're in a unique position," said Dorsey, who will work closely with Reid but have final say over personnel decisions. "We all know there is some pressure involved in that."

It is pressure unlike anything he's ever experienced.

Dorsey began his career as a scout for the Packers, and eventually rose to direct of college scouting and director of football operations. But his primary responsibility was assembling the draft board, and the final decision ultimately came down to the Packers' GM — Tom Braatz early in his career, Ron Wolf and Mike Sherman after that, and most recently Ted Thompson.

Now, when the final seconds are ticking away on April 25, all eyes in the Kansas City draft room will turn toward Dorsey for a decision that could shape the future of the franchise.

"Ultimately, we're just trying to win Super Bowls. That's what we're trying to do," said Dorsey, adding that he plans to use a similar blueprint to Green Bay.

"History and time has proven — and that's all I know — but this system works," Dorsey said Monday. "That's what I'm going to try to implement."

Examining the Packers' drafts over the past two decades yields a few ideas about how Dorsey will proceed: He'll likely choose the best player of available, regardless of position needs, but also understands the importance of drafting for depth at quarterback.

Many outsiders panned the choice of quarterback Aaron Rodgers when Brett Favre was firmly ensconced in Green Bay, and Rodgers has turned into a Super Bowl champion. Matt Flynn was picked in the seventh round and became a valuable commodity as a backup, while other guys such as Matt Hasselbeck and Aaron Brooks developed into starters elsewhere in the NFL.

"What we've always tried to do is develop a third guy," Dorsey said, "and develop him and see if he can be a 2 or a 1."

By contrast, the Chiefs have spent only one pick — a fifth-rounder — on a quarterback in the past six drafts, and the result has been disastrous play at the game's marquee position.

Matt Cassel is still under contract, even though he was benched last season. Brady Quinn played just as poorly, while Ricky Stanzi never saw the field during the regular season.

"Any time when you begin to build a franchise, let's be real, the quarterback is a very important part," Dorsey said. "As you note the last couple weeks in the playoffs, the quarterback position is a very important position to the long-term success of the organization."

Important enough to spend the No. 1 overall pick on it?

Not necessarily.

Dorsey and Reid both insisted they plan to draft the best player available, and that may not be a quarterback. West Virginia's Geno Smith is widely considered the best prospect at his position, but some draft analysts believe he's only worthy of a late first-round selection.

"My draft philosophy, you'd love to get good players. That's the primary thing," Reid said. "As the general manager comes in, that's what he's going to do. That's his responsibility."

It's not as if the Chiefs don't have other needs.

Left tackle Branden Albert and wide receiver Dwayne Bowe can both become free agents, and there are gaping holes along the defensive line, at linebacker and in the secondary. And it just so happens that some of the best available players fit those needs: Texas A&M offensive tackle Luke Joeckel, Florida State defensive end Bjoern Werner and George linebacker Jarvis Jones.

One thing that Dorsey made clear is that he won't reach for a player.

"Philosophically, you stay true to your board," he said. "You spend all those months staying true to your board, and all of a sudden you have to jump a player due to positional needs? I don't think you do that. Historically, we have proven you don't do that."

Dorsey plans to keep the Chiefs scouting department intact through the draft, but he's also bringing with him an entire season's worth of his own scouting work from Green Bay.

That will be augmented by work done at college all-star games, various pro days organized by schools, the annual scouting combine and from hour upon hour of highlight tapes.

"It's going to be a focus of our fans, the media and our personnel department here for the next three or so months," Chiefs chairman Clark Hunt said of the No. 1 pick. "It's very important we get that pick right."

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Old 01-15-2013, 04:48 PM   #16
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Old 01-15-2013, 04:50 PM   #17
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I would prefer Geno Smith, but it's pretty dumb to question Dorsey and Reid based on their track record. I would say they have a better chance of making the correct pick than you or I.
Yes because of 30 years of not drafting a QBotf for thirty years has worked so well for us. I wouldn't be as up set if we draft Barkley or Wilson but stilll pissed off if we don't draft a QB with our first pick.
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I hope we draft Manti Te'o...he seems like a really nice guy.
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Old 01-15-2013, 04:51 PM   #19
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Yes because of 30 years of not drafting a QBotf for thirty years has worked so well for us. I wouldn't be as up set if we draft Barkley or Wilson but stilll pissed off if we don't draft a QB with our first pick.
I like Nassib and Wilson...Barkley is an over-rated USC QB that's gonna fall in the long lineage of busts.
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Old 01-15-2013, 04:51 PM   #21
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Oh you think Andy Reid has a good draft record?

Let's talk about Andy's high ticket first 3 round picks

Jerome McDougle... TRADED UP, this guy sucked.
Broderick Bunkley... TRADED UP for him, traded him for pennies.
2nd round safety Jaquan Jarrett..You guys know him right?
2nd round safety Nate Allen... trash
brandon graham over jason pierre paul
Freddie mitchell..do I need to say anything here?
Danny Watkins. A 26 year old firefighter. this guy is terrible.
Trevor Laws- 2nd round DT, took AHEAD OF DESEAN JACKSON, picked Jackson same round!!
Barry Gardner 2nd round LB
Billy McMullen, 3rd round WR
Tony Hunt, 3rd round HB
Bryan Smith, 3rd round LB/DE
Daniel Teo-Nesheim 3rd round DE
Victor Abiamiri- 2nd round DE

These are all major failures, though graham is said to be looking on the better side of the coin as of late.
lmao. lots of teams passed on people. That's what happens in the draft dickhead. And the bullshit about Jackson... Why the **** would you complain about a guy that was actually drafted later than where you say he should have been drafted. And you picked a dozen players from a 14 year stint...

Stupid trolls aren't even applying any effort any more..
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Old 01-15-2013, 04:55 PM   #22
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No, but it was a position of need though, wasn't it? If we look back at that draft, was he the BEST player available?

or was he the best player at a position of need?

Did i say they overdrafted him?

there's a clear difference in draft boards when you are consistent playoff team picking in the 20s every year. 23 guys came off the board before Balauga, so like

GMing a crappy team like the Chiefs having the #1 pick is completely different, Dorsey has something he hasnt had in awhile, if ever, no team picking ahead of him, no guys coming off the board, he has his pick of anyone.
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lmao. lots of teams passed on people. That's what happens in the draft dickhead. And the bullshit about Jackson... Why the **** would you complain about a guy that was actually drafted later than where you say he should have been drafted. And you picked a dozen players from a 14 year stint...

Stupid trolls aren't even applying any effort any more..
because He RISKED losing Jackson to pick TREVOR LAWS. HAVE YOU EVER HEARD OF HIM? lol The dude is a joke!

Seriously, he had a few good picks, Lito Sheppard, Sheldon brown, Brian Westbrook, Donovan McNabb, Trent Cole.... Outside of those, name some of Andy's great draft picks, please. I'd like to hear your draft analysis of Andy Reid during his tenure with the Eagles. Thanks.
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there's a clear difference in draft boards when you are consistent playoff team picking in the 20s every year. 23 guys came off the board before Balauga, so like

GMing a crappy team like the Chiefs having the #1 pick is completely different, Dorsey has something he hasnt had in awhile, if ever, no team picking ahead of him, no guys coming off the board, he has his pick of anyne.
??

You missed my point is well. I don't care about the Bulaga pick as far as value is concerned. I don't think he was a reach. I never stated that....AT ALL. What i did state, however, is that the Bulaga pick demonstrates the Packers taking need into consideration when picking BPA.

Which brings me back to my original point that Dorsey is either BSing us or we are taking his words far too literal.
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Old 01-15-2013, 04:58 PM   #25
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It's the "Chiefs Draftboard".

Simply draft Geno. Then say we had him rated at the top of our board.

Problem solved.
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Stay true to your board. It's true you should, but Geno Smith should also be #1 on our draft board.
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Old 01-15-2013, 04:59 PM   #27
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because He RISKED losing Jackson to pick TREVOR LAWS. HAVE YOU EVER HEARD OF HIM? lol The dude is a joke!

Seriously, he had a few good picks, Lito Sheppard, Sheldon brown, Brian Westbrook, Donovan McNabb, Trent Cole.... Outside of those, name some of Andy's great draft picks, please. I'd like to hear you draft analysis of Andy Reid during his tenure with the Eagles. Thanks.
Who hits on all of their picks? Andy found his share of studs, and his teams were always competitive.
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Is this draft with the Chiefs going to be the Polar opposite of the draft that Reid did in Philly when he drafted McNabb? The Chiefs fans want him to draft a QB and he drafts another position.
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Oh you think Andy Reid has a good draft record?

Let's talk about Andy's high ticket first 3 round picks

Jerome McDougle... TRADED UP, this guy sucked.
Broderick Bunkley... TRADED UP for him, traded him for pennies.
2nd round safety Jaquan Jarrett..You guys know him right?
2nd round safety Nate Allen... trash
brandon graham over jason pierre paul
Freddie mitchell..do I need to say anything here?
Danny Watkins. A 26 year old firefighter. this guy is terrible.
Trevor Laws- 2nd round DT, took AHEAD OF DESEAN JACKSON, picked Jackson same round!!
Barry Gardner 2nd round LB
Billy McMullen, 3rd round WR
Tony Hunt, 3rd round HB
Bryan Smith, 3rd round LB/DE
Daniel Te’o-Nesheim 3rd round DE
Victor Abiamiri- 2nd round DE

These are all major failures, though graham is said to be looking on the better side of the coin as of late.
thing about Andy Reid is he also actually can HIT just as much as he misses. Where as Scooter ***** just ****ing completely whiffs 99 percent of the time.

So every Andy Reid list you have of crappy players you can also make a list of good ones.

in 2012 alone

Fletcher Cox
Mychael Kendricks
Nick Foles
Brandon Boykin
Dennis Kelly
Bryce Brown

all contributed to the Eagles this season in terms of production more than we have seen out of any one Scooter ***** draft in 4 years. All had prospective potential and production and some sort of NFL talent in their rookie seasons, and only looks good for their development.
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It's the "Chiefs Draftboard".

Simply draft Geno. Then say we had him rated at the top of our board.

Problem solved.
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