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Old 01-16-2013, 12:58 AM  
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If not #1, where?

The draftniks keep saying that Geno Smith isn't worth the #1 pick.
None of them say he isn't the top QB in the class though.
If we don't take him at #1 how far is he realistically going to fall?

I see no scenario where he falls out of the Top 10.

So if he's the top QB in a weak class...
QB is our biggest need...
And he's gonna go Top 10 anyway...

Why not at #1?

Am I wrong to say he won't fall out of the Top 10?

Discuss...
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Old 01-16-2013, 01:23 PM   #211
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Hearing 610 today, usually I have respect for Danny Parkins, but today was the most ridiculous drivel I've ever heard in Kansas City Radio. He was talking about the Bill Williamson point of getting Nick Foles from Philly with Chip Kelly being there and his system in place. The part that was ludicrous was the draft terms he was coming up with. He said, going from 4 to 1 to draft Geno Smith, Philly wouldn't be satisfied with giving us Nick Foles and the 4 pick for our 1st overall...

Who the **** are you kidding? We're doing them a favor in every way possible. If Chip Kelly doesn't get his guy, he's not going to work in the NFL. If Chip Kelly doesn't get his guy, the GM and Owner will forever be ridiculed in that city of bloodthirsty fans, and you're saying that they would probably only do the trade if we gave them our 1st AND then a third or fourth round pick. We're giving them Geno Smith for a QB they no longer want or need....

Parkins, I don't know if you haven't ever seen a draft chart or understand how trading out of top first picks works but honestly don't talk if you can't form a coherent thought.
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Old 01-16-2013, 01:23 PM   #212
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Thats what we just got out from under.
I think it was more like blind stupidity.
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Old 01-16-2013, 01:23 PM   #213
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I have no problem with trading down. But you had better be 100% guaranteed to end up with that #1 QB. No number of 2nd/3rd round picks is worth missing out on the best the draft has to offer in the most important position.
If we trade down, Geno probably goes #1 or #2.
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Old 01-16-2013, 01:24 PM   #214
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if only people thought Geno was the best QB and #1 pick in the draft...
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Old 01-16-2013, 01:25 PM   #215
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If we trade down, Geno probably goes #1 or #2.
When I say #1 QB I don't mean who person X says is #1. I mean #1 QB as in Reid and Dorsey's #1 QB.
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Old 01-16-2013, 01:25 PM   #216
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I like Geno, I like Wilson, I actually like Barkley. Glennon is a little meh to me at this point. Hell, I even think Landry Jones has some upside.


I know this is the wrong way to think about it, but I really just want them to evaluate who the best guy is and take him at 1. Seeing all these other teams draft QB's high and succeed, yeah, I'm a little jealous.

I'd rather us take a QB and him bust, than take a DL or OT and him be ok but really just meh.

It's a stupid way to think about it, and it's wrong, but damn it, you gotta try to get that guy or you can't win. So just take your top QB. If they draft Geno, or Wilson at 1 and he busts, fine.
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Old 01-16-2013, 01:28 PM   #217
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When I say #1 QB I don't mean who person X says is #1. I mean #1 QB as in Reid and Dorsey's #1 QB.
I think that is a given. I'll be shocked if Geno is not the #1 QB on our board
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Old 01-16-2013, 01:30 PM   #218
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What NFL scouts?

Name them.
Mike Mayock has said that the many scouts he's spoken to have told him that consensus.
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Old 01-16-2013, 01:30 PM   #219
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I think that is a given. I'll be shocked if Geno is not the #1 QB on our board
I could see Wilson being ahead of Geno on the Chiefs board because he is more in the mold of QBs that Reid has had in the past. He has a little Favre and McNabb in him. He has a gunslinger mentality and he can scramble pretty well.
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Old 01-16-2013, 01:31 PM   #220
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if only people thought Geno was the best QB and #1 pick in the draft...
Well, it is only 25 mocks. It's not like it's all of them or something.
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Old 01-16-2013, 01:31 PM   #221
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Mike Mayock has said that the many scouts he's spoken to have told him that consensus.
I've read on twitter today, of someone talking to a GM who said he'd take Geno first overall.


Granted, it was Walter, and hes a ****ing baffoon, but.
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Mike Mayock has said that the many scouts he's spoken to have told him that consensus.
We should start hearing some things soon. After the senior bowl, the picture normally gets a little more clear.
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I dunno. I think with the new CBA and rules the way they are, teams will always reach for the QB, based on the fact that you can't win if you don't have one.
Once coaches and GM's are routinely fired for reaching and over-drafting quarterbacks, the madness will end.
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Old 01-16-2013, 01:34 PM   #224
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And I have to disagree.
You're certainly welcome to disagree. Disagreeing doesn't make you stupid.

A concept RunKC hasn't figured out yet. Because, you know, he thinks that everybody who wants Geno is just an idiot who hasn't, like, watched him play 20+ games over three years, and read all kinds of commentary on him, and has been talking about him for months and even years. Nope. RunKC says the "NFL Scouts" he has imaginary conversations with tell him Geno Smith isn't a good QB, and anybody who disagrees is just dumb.
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Old 01-16-2013, 01:35 PM   #225
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Hearing 610 today, usually I have respect for Danny Parkins, but today was the most ridiculous drivel I've ever heard in Kansas City Radio. He was talking about the Bill Williamson point of getting Nick Foles from Philly with Chip Kelly being there and his system in place. The part that was ludicrous was the draft terms he was coming up with. He said, going from 4 to 1 to draft Geno Smith, Philly wouldn't be satisfied with giving us Nick Foles and the 4 pick for our 1st overall...

Who the **** are you kidding? We're doing them a favor in every way possible. If Chip Kelly doesn't get his guy, he's not going to work in the NFL. If Chip Kelly doesn't get his guy, the GM and Owner will forever be ridiculed in that city of bloodthirsty fans, and you're saying that they would probably only do the trade if we gave them our 1st AND then a third or fourth round pick. We're giving them Geno Smith for a QB they no longer want or need....

Parkins, I don't know if you haven't ever seen a draft chart or understand how trading out of top first picks works but honestly don't talk if you can't form a coherent thought.
I heard that same segment and wanted to reach through my radio and choke the **** out of Danny. Why is everyone saying that the QB's in this draft suck so bad? Do they not watch the games? Do they not see that stats? Didn't they sleep in the bed? Did they not feel the dents? That's from all this.......

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