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Old 01-16-2013, 12:58 AM  
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If not #1, where?

The draftniks keep saying that Geno Smith isn't worth the #1 pick.
None of them say he isn't the top QB in the class though.
If we don't take him at #1 how far is he realistically going to fall?

I see no scenario where he falls out of the Top 10.

So if he's the top QB in a weak class...
QB is our biggest need...
And he's gonna go Top 10 anyway...

Why not at #1?

Am I wrong to say he won't fall out of the Top 10?

Discuss...
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Old 01-16-2013, 03:39 PM   #331
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2-14 and we trade for Nick ****in Foles and draft a LT. What a disaster that would be.
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Old 01-16-2013, 03:40 PM   #332
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This is true. But it's also true that none of us have any idea which path Dorsey and Reid will choose at this point in time.

If the mandate from Clark Hunt was "Find me a Franchise QB THIS year", I'd imagine they'll take someone at #1 overall. If the mandate was "Find me a Franchise QB in the next three years", they have options.

None of us know. Dorsey, Reid and Hunt have all stated publicly that choosing a QB #1 overall isn't a mandate. While some people choose to believe they're bluffing, it's also just as likely that they're telling the truth.

I will refrain from making a judgement until after the decision has been announced.
They don't need a mandate from Clark. Drafting Geno Smith #1 is the correct decision, especially since we are more likely than not to be faced with worse options than Geno over the next 3-4 years. If they trade down and aquire someone else's veteran garbage, I'm not going to wait and see, that'll be a discouraging mark against Reid and Dorsey unless they prove they were right.
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Old 01-16-2013, 03:42 PM   #333
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They don't need a mandate from Clark. Drafting Geno Smith #1 is the correct decision, especially since we are more likely than not to be faced with worse options than Geno over the next 3-4 years. If they trade down and aquire someone else's veteran garbage, I'm not going to wait and see, that'll be a discouraging mark against Reid unless he proves he was right.
Oh, come on. Worse options in the next 3-4 years?

Talk about hyperbole.
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Old 01-16-2013, 03:44 PM   #334
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Oh, come on. Worse options in the next 3-4 years?

Talk about hyperbole.
Do you think we're drafting top-5 for the next 3-4 years? Geno Smith would be the best or 2nd-best option most years. Not last year, but most years, and they don't last very long.

So yes, we would, more likely than not, be stuck with worse draft options than Geno unless we plan on winning 2 games again in 2013.
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Old 01-16-2013, 03:51 PM   #335
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The Chiefs have NEVER drafted a QB that worked out. It takes a great QB to win in the NFL. As someone said the other day, we need a G@D D@#M QB, so draft a G@D D@#M QB. If it takes drafting a G@D D@#M QB in RD1 , RD2 and RD3 then do it. We are probably the only team in the NFL that has never drafted and developed one that worked.
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Old 01-16-2013, 03:53 PM   #336
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Do you think we're drafting top-5 for the next 3-4 years?
Well, they're drafting Top 5 for the fourth time in six years, so yes, it's a possibility.

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Geno Smith would be the best or 2nd-best option most years. Not last year, but most years, and they don't last very long.
That's you're unquantified position.

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think it best to wait until after The Combines and Pro Days to make that assessment.

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So yes, we would, more likely than not, be stuck with worse draft options than Geno unless we plan on winning 2 games again in 2013.
Again, pure speculation.
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Old 01-16-2013, 03:57 PM   #337
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If it takes drafting a G@D D@#M QB in RD1 , RD2 and RD3 then do it.
This is a sound strategy.
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Old 01-16-2013, 03:59 PM   #338
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Well, they're drafting Top 5 for the fourth time in six years, so yes, it's a possibility.
They're drafting #1 overall for the first and only time in team history.
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Old 01-16-2013, 04:00 PM   #339
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I[/b] think it best to wait until after The Combines and Pro Days to make that assessment.
Why?

Is what he does in shorts and a t-shirt REALLY going to impact your thoughts THAT much?
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Old 01-16-2013, 04:01 PM   #340
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Who is this mythical "We" you speak of?

When did fans and football forum members begin selecting players for their favorite franchises?
When did you become Mr. Wait and See when it comes to QBs?
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It's amazing to me that some of you guys can get so ****ing worked up over a possible scenario.
20 years without a SINGLE playoff win does that to people. Just sayin'.
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Why?

Is what he does in shorts and a t-shirt REALLY going to impact your thoughts THAT much?
Yes, absolutely, especially since I've only seen two games in which he was far from impressive.

Also, I want to see for myself why of all these QB's are so "evenly" ranked and how well they perform in an equal environment.
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When did you become Mr. Wait and See when it comes to QBs?
It's because as I've stated previously, I rarely had time to watch any college football this season (and really, last season as well). When I had the opportunity to watch USC and WV, I was very unimpressed with both Smith and Barkley in 2012.
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20 years without a SINGLE playoff win does that to people. Just sayin'.
I get it. I've been there, too. But I'm not going to blow a gasket if the Chiefs don't take a QB with the #1 overall QB because I truly believe they have a QB Guru as head coach.

I'd be somewhat surprised if Reid's decision on a QB backfired, although he'd be keeping with the Chiefs tradition.
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