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Old 01-16-2013, 10:54 AM  
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Thomas Jones to donate brain for study after death

Thomas Jones fears developing CTE
Updated: January 16, 2013, 10:00 AM ET
By Jane McManus | ESPNNewYork.com

Thomas Jones, a retired running back who played for five teams in 12 NFL seasons, has decided to donate his brain upon his death to the Sports Legacy Institute to be studied for evidence of chronic traumatic encephalopathy (CTE). Jones said he has no idea how many concussions he sustained, but that he's concerned with what they could mean for his future.

"Honestly, like I couldn't give you a number because you just play with them," Jones said. "You can't know; nobody does. I think the guys counting the concussions were the ones that got knocked out."

The Sports Legacy Institute won't confirm individual donations, but a spokesperson said that more than 600 living athletes have decided to donate their brains to be studied. Of 34 neural tissue samples from NFL players, 33 had evidence of CTE. Jones said he can only guess at what has happened to his brain after 20 years of games and practices -- and numerous "baby concussions" -- through his NFL, college and high school career.

"It's like taking a fresh, ripe apple and tapping it with your thumb over and over again," Jones said.

Jones is in the editing process of a documentary series, "The NFL: The Gift or the Curse?" The first of six planned episodes, produced by Jones' company Independently Major Entertainment Films, deals with concussions and suicide.

He interviewed Ann McKee, co-director of the Center for the Study of Traumatic Encephalopathy at Boston University and co-director Chris Nowinski about the issue. Jones decided to make his donation after conducting interviews for the project.

Last week, Junior Seau's family revealed that his brain showed evidence of CTE when he committed suicide last year. This generation of players is the first to play with concrete evidence that they could be compromising not-too-distant futures by playing professional football.

In the documentary, Jones also interviewed former defensive end Adewale Ogunleye, who was drafted by the Dolphins in 2000. Ogunleye sees ominous signs in what might just be everyday forgetfulness.

"Somebody might tell me their name; I don't remember it right away," Ogunleye said. "Now I kind of laugh it off but when stuff like that happens, I'll be like, 'Damn, I hope these concussions don't come back to haunt us in the end.' And if they do, I just pray someone is there to help me through the tough times that may come."

In the rough cut, Ogunleye then puts his face in his hands. Jones comes over and puts his arm on Ogunleye's shoulder.

These issues are personal for NFL players. Jones uses the example of Dave Duerson's suicide in February of last year.

"His suicide, you see it on TV and it's just news," Jones said. "But to us, it's more than that."

Jones envisions the series as the players speaking directly to the fans about the pitfalls of playing in the NFL. He understands that many people see attaining the dream of playing in the NFL as a dream come true, but wants to show what it looks like through the eyes of the men who reached that goal.

"The fans look at it as money," Jones said, "but once you've bought everything you want, you realize there is more you want out of life."

The series also will focus on issues such as domestic violence and financial pressures. Jones is talking with possible distributors for the project.


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Old 01-16-2013, 02:22 PM   #61
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I spent 6 months working with my uncle for a pro team, I've never claimed to be some super scout. I was a piss on intern pretty much. I did it to pass time and try something that I thought I would love, I hated it so much that I decided to go defend your country for 4 years instead. Is that ok with you? You ****ing dumb dick clown douche excuse for a human. Go piss on your balls loser.
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Old 01-16-2013, 02:35 PM   #62
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How many of the 1,700 NFL players earn a million dollars per season?
I know most of them don't but you can bet your ass every single one of them is trying to get that multi million $ payday.

How many of them do you think aren't aware of the risks?

Lets go one step farther, how many don't know the risks and would walk away once they know the risk?I believe that number to be 0.
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Old 01-16-2013, 02:41 PM   #63
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"Somebody might tell me their name; I don't remember it right away," Ogunleye said.
This is normal as you have to train yourself to pick up on names when introduced.

Most people aren't paying attention or are distracted about the ensuing conversation and thinking about what they want to contribute.
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Old 01-16-2013, 02:47 PM   #64
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While everyone else must go to school, work hard and then work 9-5 for the rest of their lives these guys can play in the NFL and retire before 30. Then they talk about head injuries and want everyone to feel sorry for them. It will be much worse in 10 years, players will CHOOSE on their own to play and then complain about the lack of treatment they received from the NFL. For future considerations if they are concerned then do something else.
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One thing that I have heard elsewhere before was the idea of going back to the old time leather helmets and minimal pads. Right now the NFL players use their bodies as weapons because they are wearing suits of armor. Back when they had minimal padding, they had to learn the real fundamentals of the game and how to attack in control so no one got hurt. While I don't think this is THE ANSWER, I do believe there is some merit to this line of thought.
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I spent 6 months working with my uncle for a pro team, I've never claimed to be some super scout. I was a piss on intern pretty much. I did it to pass time and try something that I thought I would love, I hated it so much that I decided to go defend your country for 4 years instead. Is that ok with you? You ****ing dumb dick clown douche excuse for a human. Go piss on your balls loser.
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Old 01-16-2013, 03:18 PM   #70
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Why is it that these athletes only say there is more to life than $ after they make it?

The hypocrisy is obnoxious.

They are highly paid to play a game that comes w/ OBVIOUS inherent risk to physical health. Huge athletic freaks of nature running around at high speed colliding with each other over and over the course of years. The same group of guys that claim their coaches and/or doctors and/or league lied to them were lying to said coaches/doctors about how hurt they were in order to stay on the field and KEEP the jobs they are crying crocodile tears over in an effort to shockingly make some more $.
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Old 01-16-2013, 03:19 PM   #71
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KC Sporting is right.


While everyone else must go to school, work hard and then work 9-5 for the rest of their lives these guys can play in the NFL and retire before 30. Then they talk about head injuries and want everyone to feel sorry for them. It will be much worse in 10 years, players will CHOOSE on their own to play and then complain about the lack of treatment they received from the NFL. For future considerations if they are concerned then do something else.

Good point. I think I'll donate my right hand and forearm to science. I can already tell it's going bad.
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There are all types of professions where you risk life and limb for less money and less glory than NFL players.

Also, anyone who thought smashing your head into other people's head while running full speed would not negatively impact your brain... well, it obviously wasn't something you were using in the first place.

Moreover, all of these men had a chance at a free post secondary education. How many of you had that opportunity?

Finally, they can retired and enter the workforce at any time. They are in no way obligated to play until their body breaks down and they have to quit.

I'm sorry, but these NFL players pretty much blame everyone except the primary person responsible.
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You couldnt spend 2 weeks in the military you pussy. Stick to being a message board tough guy with your name calling. We will handle the tough shit.
you made your money, stop complaining.
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I love how all these Athletes try and make us feel sorry for them. You signed the million dollar contract to get hit in the head thousands of times, nobody forced you to do it. You could have gone a different route with your free college degree. Shut the **** up and cash your check while the rest of us work 9-5. I don't care about your head problems, not even a little bit.
Meh, I do feel sympathy for anyone suffering physically or dying or whatever even when it's self inflicted but I agree w/ everything else you said here.
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I'll spend a few minutes on this, though God knows why because I damn well know it's a waste of time:

1. until the last few years, nobody really understood just how damaging multiple concussions could be to the quality of life of football players post-career. So yes, they understood the risk of injury, but did they understand that multiple concussions might leave them seriously mentally impaired on a daily basis by the time they were 50? Hell no.

2. You say they are whining and want sympathy. I didn't see any whining there. I saw a bunch of statements of obvious facts, and CONCERN that he MIGHT be in trouble in the future. Like any normal human would be concerned.

3. It seems to me that donating one's brain to scientific study, and discussing this issue, can only help future players and the NFL try to figure out how to play the game in a way that we recognize as football, while trying to avoid having a psychiatric ward full of mentally impaired former NFL players.

What, exactly, did Jones do that was wrong here? Answer: nothing.

But by all means go back to your knuckle-dragging, mouth-breathing "he knew da risks, **** 'im" point of view. I'm sure that will be very beneficial to former, current and future NFL players.
I think it is all about educating kids from when they are very young as to how to safely tackle and changing the culture of the sport w/ respect to trying to hurt other players in an effort to win or be macho or whatever. It's not going to fix everything but I think it could go a way in helping.
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