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Old 01-16-2013, 02:26 PM  
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Obama’s 23 Planned Executive Actions On Guns

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Obama’s 23 Planned Executive Actions On Guns
David Taintor
11:58 AM EST, Wednesday January 16, 2013

Here is a list provided by the White House of the 23 executive actions President Obama plans to take to reduce gun violence in the wake of the Newtown, Conn., massacre:
  1. Issue a Presidential Memorandum to require federal agencies to make relevant data available to the federal background check system.
  2. Address unnecessary legal barriers, particularly relating to the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act, that may prevent states from making information available to the background check system.
  3. Improve incentives for states to share information with the background check system.
  4. Direct the Attorney General to review categories of individuals prohibited from having a gun to make sure dangerous people are not slipping through the cracks.
  5. Propose rulemaking to give law enforcement the ability to run a full background check on an individual before returning a seized gun.
  6. Publish a letter from ATF to federally licensed gun dealers providing guidance on how to run background checks for private sellers.
  7. Launch a national safe and responsible gun ownership campaign.
  8. Review safety standards for gun locks and gun safes (Consumer Product Safety Commission).
  9. Issue a Presidential Memorandum to require federal law enforcement to trace guns recovered in criminal investigations.
  10. Release a DOJ report analyzing information on lost and stolen guns and make it widely available to law enforcement.
  11. Nominate an ATF director.
  12. Provide law enforcement, first responders, and school officials with proper training for active shooter situations.
  13. Maximize enforcement efforts to prevent gun violence and prosecute gun crime.
  14. Issue a Presidential Memorandum directing the Centers for Disease Control to research the causes and prevention of gun violence.
  15. Direct the Attorney General to issue a report on the availability and most effective use of new gun safety technologies and challenge the private sector to develop innovative technologies.
  16. Clarify that the Affordable Care Act does not prohibit doctors asking their patients about guns in their homes.
  17. Release a letter to health care providers clarifying that no federal law prohibits them from reporting threats of violence to law enforcement authorities.
  18. Provide incentives for schools to hire school resource officers.
  19. Develop model emergency response plans for schools, houses of worship and institutions of higher education.
  20. Release a letter to state health officials clarifying the scope of mental health services that Medicaid plans must cover.
  21. Finalize regulations clarifying essential health benefits and parity requirements within ACA exchanges.
  22. Commit to finalizing mental health parity regulations.
  23. Launch a national dialogue led by Secretaries Sebelius and Duncan on mental health.
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Old 01-16-2013, 03:15 PM   #16
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It's nothing. It's a photo op and a PR stunt.
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Old 01-16-2013, 03:15 PM   #17
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I'd put money on, more access to mental health will result in more shootings. That's because even the psychiatric profession admits it cannot cure, so they use drugs. The kind of drugs used for what I believe is the largest complaint, depression, are what have lead to psychotic episodes of gun violence. How about investigating BIG Pharma and the FDA, both of who know about such side effects? Instead the left increases their market for them. In the meantime, the left whines about corporatocracy when their own policies create and increase it.
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Old 01-16-2013, 03:16 PM   #18
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Without reading through this awesome piece of Biden brilliance can someone give me the cliff notes on which of these proposals would have stopped the Sandy Hook shooter?
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Old 01-16-2013, 03:19 PM   #19
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Without reading through this awesome piece of Biden brilliance can someone give me the cliff notes on which of these proposals would have stopped the Sandy Hook shooter?
None. You're welcome.
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Old 01-16-2013, 03:20 PM   #20
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So my doctor will be allowed to ask about guns in my home, and I'll politely tell him that it's none of his business. The government needed to get involved in that conversation?
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Old 01-16-2013, 03:20 PM   #21
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I already posted this in the "Obama to issue executive order regarding guns?" thread, but I'll repost it anyway.

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Some of these EO's are interesting...

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4. Direct the Attorney General to review categories of individuals prohibited from having a gun to make sure dangerous people are not slipping through the cracks.
The guy responsible for Operation Fast and Furious gets to decide who is dangerous and shouldn't have a gun. How ironic.

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5. Propose rulemaking to give law enforcement the ability to run a full background check on an individual before returning a seized gun.
Don't cops already check the serial number to see if a seized gun is stolen? Now you have to go through a background check before you can get your legally owned gun back? I could see this easily being abused.

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12. Provide law enforcement, first responders, and school officials with proper training for active shooter situations.

19. Develop model emergency response plans for schools, houses of worship and institutions of higher education.
DHS already runs mock active shooter scenarios at schools. I know these EO's aren't specific, but I would guess that DHS will be more involved than ever.

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16. Clarify that the Affordable Care Act does not prohibit doctors asking their patients about guns in their homes.
I didn't know that doctors could ask about your guns in the first place. Many patients will just lie about their guns, or flat out refuse to answer the question.
And I was correct in thinking that DHS will expand its role because of EO 12 and 19.

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I was right. It didn't take Manet Napolitano long to announce it. The DHS will expand its role in our every day lives.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/...ts_696127.html

DHS to 'Expand and Formalize Coordination' on Gun Control Efforts
1:09 PM, JAN 16, 2013 • BY MICHAEL WARREN

Janet Napolitano, head of the Department of Homeland Security, released a statement Wednesday saying she is "proud to support" the Obama administration's efforts to "combat gun violence in our country." Here's more from Napolitano's statement:

In the aftermath of the tragic Newtown shooting, the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), together with the Department of Justice (DOJ), and the FBI have worked to identify measures that could be taken to reduce the risk of mass casualty shootings. In the coming days, DHS will expand and formalize coordination of ongoing efforts intended to prevent future mass casualty shootings, improve preparedness, and to strengthen security and resilience in schools and other potential targets. DHS will work with partners at all levels of government, to address five critical areas intended to reduce the risk of mass casualty shootings in the United States: Prevention, Protection, Response, Education, and Research/Evaluation. DHS will also work with law enforcement to refresh, expand and prioritize the implementation of nationwide public awareness efforts such as the “If You See Something, Say Something™” campaign. This is a critical issue that requires immediate attention and I look forward to supporting the President and this Administration as we move ahead.
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Old 01-16-2013, 03:22 PM   #22
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So my doctor will be allowed to ask about guns in my home, and I'll politely tell him that it's none of his business. The government needed to get involved in that conversation?
But there's 23 things! Look at all Obama accomplished.

Direckshun is going to just put this down as another grand Obama milestone.
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Old 01-16-2013, 03:51 PM   #23
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Old 01-16-2013, 04:11 PM   #24
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18. Provide incentives for schools to hire school resource officers.
The NRA said a few weeks ago that we should have more armed law enforcement officers in schools. They got roasted by the left-wing media for it. And if I remember right, Obama said he didn't think more guns was the answer.

Now he's ready to provide funding for more guns in schools by hiring more SRO's. Its the same damn thing the NRA proposed.

But I'm sure the liberals are ok with more guns in schools now, since Lord Obama wants it.
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First on the Hitler nonsense, just stop, the very said thing can be said about republican action over the last few years.

"We must close union offices, confiscate their money and put their leaders in prison. We mush reduce salaries and take away their right to strike" -- Adolf Hitler, May 2, 1933.

Second, even the most conservative judge on the Supreme Court would uphold what Obama has proposed. From DC v Heller via Wiipedia:

(2) Like most rights, the Second Amendment right is not unlimited. It is not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose: For example, concealed weapons prohibitions have been upheld under the Amendment or state analogues. The Court's opinion should not be taken to cast doubt on longstanding prohibitions on the possession of firearms by felons and the mentally ill, or laws forbidding the carrying of firearms in sensitive places such as schools and government buildings, or laws imposing conditions and qualifications on the commercial sale of arms. Miller's holding that the sorts of weapons protected are those "in common use at the time" finds support in the historical tradition of prohibiting the carrying of dangerous and unusual weapons

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Scalia's opinion for the majority provided 2nd Amendment protection for commonly used and popular handguns but not for atypical arms or arms that are used for unlawful purposes such as short-barreled shotguns. Scalia stated: "Whatever the reason, handguns are the most popular weapon chosen by Americans for self-defense in the home, and a complete prohibition of their use is invalid." "We think that Miller's "ordinary military equipment" language must be read in tandem with what comes after: "[O]rdinarily when called for [militia] service [able-bodied] men were expected to appear bearing arms supplied by themselves and of the kind in common use at the time." 307 U. S., at 179." "We therefore read Miller to say only that the Second Amendment does not protect those weapons not typically possessed by law-abiding citizens for lawful purposes, such as short-barreled shotguns." Furthermore, military grade weapons not being the sort of weapons that are possessed at home that would be brought to militia duty are not the sort of lawful weapon conceived of being protected. "It may be objected that if weapons that are most useful in military service - M-16 rifles and the like - may be banned, then the Second Amendment right is completely detached from the prefatory clause. But as we have said, the conception of the militia at the time of the Second Amendment's ratification was the body of all citizens capable of military service, who would bring the sorts of lawful weapons that they possessed at home to militia duty."Therefore, weapons that are most useful in military service - M-16 rifles and weapons like it - are also not provided with 2nd Amendment protection.


Third, Obama is not going to take your guns. He isn't going to take your Handgun, your great grandfathers musket, your 12 gauge, or .22. The only gun laws he messed with in his first term actually decreased regulation (allowing them into National Parks).

Fourth, the NRA is using your fear and paranoia to increase its own membership, as well as increase the sales of firearms. And they are very good at it. This happens after every shooting. You know whatever, I'm not going to tell you what to spend your money on, but the NRA exists to to sell guns, not protect your rights, I would suggest at least thinking about that.
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Old 01-16-2013, 04:20 PM   #26
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Love the children touch!

It was a good reminder. Meanwhile, using children shows how Left Progressives treat adults, which is like children; how they like to reach out to those who don't know much too since children are incapable of making knowledgeable decisions.

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Fourth, the NRA is using your fear and paranoia to increase its own membership, as well as increase the sales of firearms. And they are very good at it. This happens after every shooting. You know whatever, I'm not going to tell you what to spend your money on, but the NRA exists to to sell guns, not protect your rights, I would suggest at least thinking about that.
Great, another one.

The NRA responds to the liberal media bathing itself in blood and traumatizing the viewing public with nonstop 24/7 massacre coverage. THIS HAPPENS AFTER EVERY SHOOTING, STUPID.

And our concern stems from scum like Obama, Feinstein, Bloomberg, Emanuel and other dedicated gun-haters holding positions of true influence and power. It doesn't stem from being a brainwashed ****tard led to believe that a handful of overhyped, isolated incidents is the biggest threat we face as a nation.

You might want to think about pulling your head out of your ass.
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Old 01-16-2013, 04:27 PM   #28
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Without reading through this awesome piece of Biden brilliance can someone give me the cliff notes on which of these proposals would have stopped the Sandy Hook shooter?
It doesn't matter. Barry said "her favorite color was pink".

It makes perfect sense to moonbats.
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Great, another one.

The NRA responds to the liberal media bathing itself in blood and traumatizing the viewing public with nonstop 24/7 massacre coverage. THIS HAPPENS AFTER EVERY SHOOTING, STUPID.

And our concern stems from scum like Obama, Feinstein, Bloomberg, Emanuel and other dedicated gun-haters holding positions of true influence and power. It doesn't stem from being a brainwashed ****tard led to believe that a handful of overhyped, isolated incidents is the biggest threat we face as a nation.

You might want to think about pulling your head out of your ass.
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Wonder if they agree?

A BS PR stunt and photo op = 6,000,000 Jews dying?
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