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Old 01-17-2013, 09:04 PM  
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Horton angry about Arians hire

Ray Horton angry after Cardinals hire Bruce Arians

Posted by Michael David Smith on January 17, 2013, 9:53 PM EST
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The Cardinals have hired Bruce Arians as their new head coach, and the in-house candidate who was passed over for Arians isn’t happy about it.

Ray Horton, the Cardinals defensive coordinator who did an excellent job in 2012 while the Cardinals’ offense fell apart, was considered a strong candidate to replace the fired Ken Whisenhunt as the next head coach. Instead, the Cardinals have announced that Arians, who spent last season as the Colts’ offensive coordinator and interim head coach, will get the job. Multiple reports say Horton was angry at that announcement.

Mike Jurecki of XTRA 910 reports that Horton had a heated exchange with new Cardinals General Manager Steve Keim when he found out that Arians got the job. Mike Garafolo of USA Today reports that Horton is “pissed.”

It’s hard to blame Horton for feeling that way. He’s a well regarded defensive coordinator who paid his dues as an assistant and before that as an NFL player for 10 years. In any line of work, to be passed over for a promotion you think you have coming stings.

Horton still has a year on his contract with the Cardinals, but Arians isn’t believed to want him to stay, and it sure doesn’t sound like Horton wants to stay. So Horton will presumably start looking for another job as an assistant, somewhere, after thinking he had a good chance of staying in Arizona and becoming the Cardinals’ next head coach.
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Old 01-18-2013, 12:56 AM   #31
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I love how Arians is like, "It's a perfect fit for me." I'm not knocking Arians, I really hope he does well there, but this is all that was left. All these coaching openings, Bears, Eagles, etc were talking about bringing in Arians and then they all went in opposite directions even after he got out of the hospital and to his interviews. If I were a Cards fan I would think that the Cards settled because they couldn't get the coach they should've.
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Old 01-18-2013, 12:59 AM   #32
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I love how Arians is like, "It's a perfect fit for me." I'm not knocking Arians, I really hope he does well there, but this is all that was left. All these coaching openings, Bears, Eagles, etc were talking about bringing in Arians and then they all went in opposite directions even after he got out of the hospital and to his interviews. If I were a Cards fan I would think that the Cards settled because they couldn't get the coach they should've.
I don't disagree but who should they have hired?
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Old 01-18-2013, 01:13 AM   #33
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I don't disagree but who should they have hired?
Mike Zimmer

The fact he's not a Head Coach yet is a crime.
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Old 01-18-2013, 06:47 AM   #34
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The eagles was learning the wide 9 def that looks a lot like our def under Horton and didn't it take time for our def to gel under horton or did it gel ? but the eagles were learning it at mid season when the players pretty much quit we all heard that from some of the players on the eagles.
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Old 01-18-2013, 06:57 AM   #35
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I don't disagree but who should they have hired?
Good question....It sounds like the didn't have a plan B when KC sniped them and took Reid.
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Old 01-18-2013, 07:04 AM   #36
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Old 01-18-2013, 08:49 AM   #37
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Mike Zimmer

The fact he's not a Head Coach yet is a crime.
Same deal as with Arians. When you are that successful for that long, yet your name never comes up, there's usually a reason why.

The nfl is a close fraternity. There are bad owners, but there are some real good ones too. The good ones obviously know something about Zimmer that's raising red flags. Same reason al Saunders and Ron Rivera struggled for so long to find head coaching gigs.
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Old 01-18-2013, 09:47 AM   #38
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Mike Zimmer

The fact he's not a Head Coach yet is a crime.
There is and are reasons that are non-football related I'm sure.
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Old 01-18-2013, 10:27 AM   #39
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Old 01-18-2013, 11:31 AM   #41
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Wouldnt surprise me if the league looked into this. Especially since there were no minority head coaching hires.
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Old 01-18-2013, 11:34 AM   #42
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Wouldnt surprise me if the league looked into this. Especially since there were no minority head coaching hires.
Teams are going more "offense" - especially with the rules the way they currently are. There are hardly any minority OC's out there (I can only think of Caldwell with Baltimore), which I bet is one of the main reasons for the lack of hires this year. I would not be surprised if they expand on the Rooney Rule and extend it to coordinators as well.
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Same deal as with Arians. When you are that successful for that long, yet your name never comes up, there's usually a reason why.

The nfl is a close fraternity. There are bad owners, but there are some real good ones too. The good ones obviously know something about Zimmer that's raising red flags. Same reason al Saunders and Ron Rivera struggled for so long to find head coaching gigs.
Al Saunders had a head coaching gig, way back in the 80's.

He was a flake and an asshole, basically got blacklisted because of it.
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