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Old 01-17-2013, 10:07 PM  
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Old 02-26-2013, 02:58 PM   #4906
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Just saw the Mooch interview. I thought Geno did okay. I think I had an advantage in knowing I was going to have to re-draw the play in a few minutes. I'm not 100% sure Geno knew he was going to do it like that, maybe wrong.
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Old 02-26-2013, 03:00 PM   #4907
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Here are the numbers of the last 3 years based on their stats and that formula.

Geno Smith 83.1
Matt Barkley 75.4
E.J. Manuel 50.7
Tyler Wilson 19.1


Andrew Luck 68.7
RG3 74.4
Ryan Tannehill 23.65
Brandon Weeden 56.35
Russell Wilson 36.3
Nick Foles 48.3

Cam Newton 54.3
Jake Locker -17.9
Blaine Gabbert 19.7
Christian Ponder 20.3
Andy Dalton 34.6
Colin Kaepernick 28.1

Sam Bradford 74.5
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Old 02-26-2013, 03:06 PM   #4908
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Old 02-26-2013, 03:07 PM   #4909
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Here are the numbers of the last 3 years based on their stats and that formula.

Geno Smith 83.1
Matt Barkley 75.4
E.J. Manuel 50.7
Tyler Wilson 19.1


Andrew Luck 68.7
RG3 74.4
Ryan Tannehill 23.65
Brandon Weeden 56.35
Russell Wilson 36.3
Nick Foles 48.3

Cam Newton 54.3
Jake Locker -17.9
Blaine Gabbert 19.7
Christian Ponder 20.3
Andy Dalton 34.6
Colin Kaepernick 28.1

Sam Bradford 74.5
Freaking brilliant. Thank you!
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Old 02-26-2013, 03:08 PM   #4910
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It all comes down to how much you knock down the numbers of players that come from a "spread" offense. And obviously those numbers aren't 100% cut and dry on whether those players will succeed or fail. I mean ****....is Locker worse than Leaf? Probably not. Is Alex Smith better than Aaron Rodgers? No way. But it's basing everything off of the number of starts, the completion percentage and the TD/INT ratio they had during college.
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Old 02-26-2013, 03:09 PM   #4911
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Oh my ****ing God. My head just exploded.

That is the single best ****ing post I've ever seen on the subject.
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Old 02-26-2013, 03:10 PM   #4912
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It all comes down to how much you knock down the numbers of players that come from a "spread" offense. And obviously those numbers aren't 100% cut and dry on whether those players will succeed or fail. I mean ****....is Locker worse than Leaf? Probably not. Is Alex Smith better than Aaron Rodgers? No way. But it's basing everything off of the number of starts, the completion percentage and the TD/INT ratio they had during college.
Look at the busts.

Holy shit, that's like a nuclear missile.
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Old 02-26-2013, 03:12 PM   #4913
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Anyone answer what Polian said when McShay said what he said?
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Old 02-26-2013, 03:16 PM   #4914
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Here are the numbers of the last 3 years based on their stats and that formula.

Geno Smith 83.1
Matt Barkley 75.4
E.J. Manuel 50.7
Tyler Wilson 19.1


Andrew Luck 68.7
RG3 74.4
Ryan Tannehill 23.65
Brandon Weeden 56.35
Russell Wilson 36.3
Nick Foles 48.3

Cam Newton 54.3
Jake Locker -17.9
Blaine Gabbert 19.7
Christian Ponder 20.3
Andy Dalton 34.6
Colin Kaepernick 28.1

Sam Bradford 74.5
great breakdown, REP!
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Old 02-26-2013, 03:19 PM   #4915
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What this ultimately says is that Geno has an extremely high probability of being a good QB or better.
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Old 02-26-2013, 03:19 PM   #4916
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Another thing that you need to remember when looking at those numbers...

They only include passing statistics. So they don't include any of the rushing stats that those QBs put up during their college careers.

This is from the article...

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When McShay, Mayock and Jim from Cincinnati express their concerns about Stafford, it's primarily for these reasons: College quarterbacks don't typically improve their accuracy in the NFL. If his decisions were at all suspect against SEC opponents, then it's reasonable to wonder how he will react to professional defenses.
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Old 02-26-2013, 03:21 PM   #4917
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What this ultimately says is that Geno has an extremely high probability of being a good QB or better.
Basically this.

People are going to look at those numbers and call bullshit but they need to remember that those numbers don't factor in extenuating circumstances or outside factors that they can't account for (David Carr having no offensive line or Matt Leinart being a playboy that didn't care about football). This is only based on stats.
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Old 02-26-2013, 03:22 PM   #4918
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Another thing that you need to remember when looking at those numbers...

They only include passing statistics. So they don't include any of the rushing stats that those QBs put up during their college careers.

This is from the article...
Geno is going to be a better NFL QB than Matthew Stafford. I have no doubt about that.
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Old 02-26-2013, 03:23 PM   #4919
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New thread, Pestilence.

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