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Old 01-17-2013, 09:07 PM  
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Old 03-18-2013, 06:18 PM   #5701
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I would love for the Chiefs to draft him number one and watch this forum explode then they trade him to the bills or something when their pick comes up.... This place would be fun
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Old 03-18-2013, 07:41 PM   #5702
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Old 03-18-2013, 07:48 PM   #5703
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This is certainly what he is thinking, but he's not going to come out and say it, they're trying to drum up interest for the 1st pick. If Reid just comes out and flat says they don't want the pick they'll be offered less in a trade.
No they won't. The price will be driven by having multiple teams wanting the pick, none of them give a shit how bad the Chiefs want it. The Rams sure as hell didn't want the #2 pick last year and got a haul because of a bidding war for RG3.
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Old 03-18-2013, 10:23 PM   #5704
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No they won't. The price will be driven by having multiple teams wanting the pick, none of them give a shit how bad the Chiefs want it. The Rams sure as hell didn't want the #2 pick last year and got a haul because of a bidding war for RG3.
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Old 03-18-2013, 11:17 PM   #5705
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Old 03-19-2013, 01:12 AM   #5707
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No they won't. The price will be driven by having multiple teams wanting the pick, none of them give a shit how bad the Chiefs want it. The Rams sure as hell didn't want the #2 pick last year and got a haul because of a bidding war for RG3.
Um no, you don't want the party you're dealing with to know that you are dead set on getting rid of your pick. They will know you are desperate to get rid of it and will offer less compensation. You want them to think you would consider getting rid of it for the right price, but you're not desperate. It's a pretty basic concept that applies with selling anything. There's no RG3 in this draft so that's a pretty poor example, and if teams know you just want out of the spot they will start the bidding lower.
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Old 03-19-2013, 02:21 AM   #5708
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Um no, you don't want the party you're dealing with to know that you are dead set on getting rid of your pick. They will know you are desperate to get rid of it and will offer less compensation. You want them to think you would consider getting rid of it for the right price, but you're not desperate. It's a pretty basic concept that applies with selling anything. There's no RG3 in this draft so that's a pretty poor example, and if teams know you just want out of the spot they will start the bidding lower.
You just don't get it. Think of it as online auction on ebay. Everyone knows you are selling, but as long as 2 people covet it the sale price will be higher then if you only have one buyer and the price possibly goes higher then what the seller would have taken for the item if just sold out right.

Let's say the Eagles and Bills both are in love with Geno and the Eagless offer this years 1, 2 and a 3rd next year. The Chiefs tell the Bills about the offer and say they will take a 1,2, and 2nd next year from them. Do they come back and tell the Chiefs no, because we don't think you are going to pick Geno therefore we won't make the trade knowing for damn well the Eagles will make a trade and take Geno???? How much sense does that make? They either offer more then the other teams or they don't get him regardless of how much the Chiefs covet the pick.
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Old 03-19-2013, 06:01 AM   #5709
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Old 03-19-2013, 08:42 AM   #5710
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Um no, you don't want the party you're dealing with to know that you are dead set on getting rid of your pick. They will know you are desperate to get rid of it and will offer less compensation. You want them to think you would consider getting rid of it for the right price, but you're not desperate. It's a pretty basic concept that applies with selling anything. There's no RG3 in this draft so that's a pretty poor example, and if teams know you just want out of the spot they will start the bidding lower.
You're an idiot. But let's look at it this way... EVERYONE knows the 9ers would have preferred to get rid of Alex Smith. EVERYONE. They'd keep him rather than sell him low, but moving him was the goal.

The Chiefs offered a 3rd for him. This probably would have been MORE than enough to get him. Problem is, Buffalo came along and offered a 2nd. Next thing you know, we get raped and give up a 2nd and a future. We lose, bad.

Supply and demand.

Not demand and I think my shits worth more than it is. Demand sets the market.
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Old 03-19-2013, 08:44 AM   #5711
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Andy Reid says he'll evaluate 8-10 players for No. 1 pick. Asked why Alex over Geno Smith: "Doesn't mean Geno is out of the water." Smiles. Via Andy Rapport twitter
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You're an idiot. But let's look at it this way... EVERYONE knows the 9ers would have preferred to get rid of Alex Smith. EVERYONE. They'd keep him rather than sell him low, but moving him was the goal.

The Chiefs offered a 3rd for him. This probably would have been MORE than enough to get him. Problem is, Buffalo came along and offered a 2nd. Next thing you know, we get raped and give up a 2nd and a future. We lose, bad.

Supply and demand.

Not demand and I think my shits worth more than it is. Demand sets the market.
Bro go look at the Reid says Geno not out of consideration for #1 pick thread. There's a number of people saying exactly what I was saying. Reid isn't gonna come out and say they don't want Geno and they don't want the #1 pick because teams will low ball them.

Thanks for bringing up the Alex Smith example because even when everyone knew he was gonna be moved or released what did Baalke say publicly? He said the 49ers would not release him and he would be on the roster next year if a trade wasn't worked out. Same way everyone knows the Chiefs want out of the #1 spot they still feign interest publicly.
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You just don't get it. Think of it as online auction on ebay. Everyone knows you are selling, but as long as 2 people covet it the sale price will be higher then if you only have one buyer and the price possibly goes higher then what the seller would have taken for the item if just sold out right.

Let's say the Eagles and Bills both are in love with Geno and the Eagless offer this years 1, 2 and a 3rd next year. The Chiefs tell the Bills about the offer and say they will take a 1,2, and 2nd next year from them. Do they come back and tell the Chiefs no, because we don't think you are going to pick Geno therefore we won't make the trade knowing for damn well the Eagles will make a trade and take Geno???? How much sense does that make? They either offer more then the other teams or they don't get him regardless of how much the Chiefs covet the pick.
Ok so if on your online auction you write, "I do not want this item at all I want to get rid of it." Where is the bidding gonna start you moron?
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