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Old 01-19-2013, 07:33 PM  
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Trading for Nick Foles

Nick Foles to the Chiefs? Two perspectives (well, mostly one)
By MNchiefsfan on Jan 19, 6:33a 692

http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2013/1...-chiefs-rumors

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Why NOT throw another QB's name into the mix? The Chiefs can use all the help they can get at the position in 2013.

I don't know if you've gotten the memo, but quarterback is the main topic of discussion for the Kansas City Chiefs this offseason and for the 2013 NFL Draft.

What quarterback is the best of this draft class? Should the Chiefs draft a quarterback? What round should we draft a quarterback? Should we get a quarterback in free agency? Is Geno Smith awesome or terrible, with no in between? What quarterbacks are available via trade?

And on and on it goes....

I'm not immune to this latest obsession with quarterbacks. I'd say the decision as to whom the Chiefs place behind center next season will largely make or break the next several years (if not the next dozen years) of Chiefs football. If the Chiefs blow it, we'll continue to be trapped in mediocrity for a couple of years. If the Chiefs knock it out of the park, we might contend for a Super Bowl for a decade. Somewhere in between and we could go back and forth between the two for awhile. It's kind of a big deal.

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Old 01-20-2013, 11:17 AM   #136
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If he was so awesome, why the **** would the Eagles think about dealing him?
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Old 01-20-2013, 11:20 AM   #137
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If he was so awesome, why the **** would the Eagles think about dealing him?
It's speculation based on Chip Kelly and QBs that might fit his style of play (QBs that can run and pass). That's assuming he brings his Oregon offense to the NFL.
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Old 01-20-2013, 11:35 AM   #138
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IF Reid really likes Foles, and
IF Kelly doesn't want him because he wants a different guy, and
IF you could get him for either a swap of firsts or a second, and
IF Reid has decided he's not down with Geno,
THEN it would make sense.

Foles is not Cassel. He is not a career backup, he's a rookie that was pressed into playing time in a bad situation and played fairly well, considering. He's a big kid, with a big arm. If Reid likes him, I'd be alright with it. Pretty much nobody would've picked Russell Wilson over Foles this time last year. Foles is NOT the guy we've usually traded for/signed. He is not Deberg/Bono/Grbac/Cassel. He's not even Trent Green. He's a rookie, with promise, who's played some and acquitted himself well in a horrible situation. If you must compare what this move would look like, it would look like Green Bay trading a #2 to Atlanta for Brett Favre in 1991.

I'm not saying Foles is for sure the answer, just that IF Reid thinks he is or might be, and that he's a better option than Geno or that Geno/Wilson/Barkley/whoever all rate about the same, then this might not be a bad option.

Especially if it was for a switch of firsts, because then you could still draft a Wilson or Barkley in the Eagles slot, have Foles, and let 'em fight it out in camp.
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Old 01-20-2013, 11:36 AM   #139
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Hell, if you did that, and drafted Wilson, say, and signed Hasselbeck to be your vet backup/mentor, you'd have a pretty sweet QB situation.
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Old 01-20-2013, 12:14 PM   #140
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Last 20 plus years actually, but some can't get enough of leftovers.
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If he was so awesome, why the **** would the Eagles think about dealing him?
If Bowe is so great then why didn't someone grab him on the Tag?

If Geno Smith is so great then why isn't some team offering us a Washington type deal for him like they did RGIII.

wow, you can play that game all over the place.


Foles is a 2nd year player not a leftover .... who HC is now our HC and who might not fit the scheme of the new philly HC. It's not even remotely the same thing as Bono,Grbac,Green etc...

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Old 01-20-2013, 12:35 PM   #141
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If they are willing to take our 3rd then fine otherwise no thanks.
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Old 01-20-2013, 12:38 PM   #142
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And yet, almost every draft site has Smith rated higher than Wilson.

Of course, this from the dumb**** that thinks the answer to the QB problem is to try to lure Brett Favre out of retirement.
Could you please bludgeon this moron to death and put him out of our misery? JFC
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Old 01-20-2013, 12:40 PM   #143
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If Bowe is so great then why didn't someone grab him on the Tag?

If Geno Smith is so great then why isn't some team offering us a Washington type deal for him like they did RGIII.

wow, you can play that game all over the place.


Foles is a 2nd year player not a leftover who HC is now our HC and who might not fight the scheme of the new HC. It's not even remotely the same thing as Bono,Grbac,Green etc...
**** Foles
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Old 01-20-2013, 12:41 PM   #144
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60 percent passer as a rookie, while throwing it 30, 40, sometimes 50 times a game

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Old 01-20-2013, 12:46 PM   #145
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he had a ****ing swiss cheese O line of backups (at the end 4 of 5 starters were gone), backup rookie RB who ran well but couldn't pick up a blitz, starting WR out, and a coach with a pass/run ration of 70/30

he didn't do too bad
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Old 01-20-2013, 12:50 PM   #146
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If they are willing to take our 3rd then fine otherwise no thanks.
i would probably even go a step further and say 'no QB draftee then no thanks'


imo If Reid wants Foles then i want competition for Foles as well. I don't want Foles at the cost of Smith or Wilson.
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Old 01-20-2013, 12:50 PM   #147
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**** Foles
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Old 01-20-2013, 12:59 PM   #148
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**** all this nonsense of trading for someone for more than he was worth last season.

If the Eagles want to trade a rookie QB who they drafted last year I'll give you a 5th round pick. Why would they trade him? He's just too good for them?
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Old 01-20-2013, 01:03 PM   #149
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I think Foles is a bit of a unique situation. The possibility of Chip Kelly running a totally new offense which emphasizes a mobile quaraterback would make Foles expendable without necessarily categorizing him as a "castoff".

He obviously has good physical talent/tangibles to be a quarterback in the NFL. For those clamoring to get multiple quarterbacks in this years draft, I see no downside to substituting one of those QBs for Foles. Last years crop of QBs obviously pushed him down the draft board. You would have to evaluate him against similar QBs in the 2nd and 3rd rounds this year.

I would be all for a 3rd round pick for the guy. . . as long as you don't stop there. Otherwise, you are putting all your eggs in the ex-franchise's QB. . . almost exactly in the same manner as Pioli put all his eggs in Cassel's rotten basket.
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Old 01-20-2013, 01:04 PM   #150
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I would be all for a 3rd round pick for the guy. . . as long as you don't stop there. Otherwise, you are putting all your eggs in the ex-franchise's QB. . . almost exactly in the same manner as ***** put all his eggs in Cassel's rotten basket.
No. no. no. no. no. HELL NO. NO!
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