Football I say "Rooney Rule", you say....? - Page 5

ChiefsCountry · 01-20-2013, 06:33 PM

NFL needs a spring time minor league system in the United States. It would help quarterback development while also giving more coaching gigs available. Not to mention fill scheduling time on NFL Network.

tony77 · 01-20-2013, 06:43 PM

stupid, nfl just keeping a form of racism alive.

Setsuna · 01-20-2013, 06:44 PM

BULLSHIT is what I say.

KCChiefsFan88 · 01-20-2013, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

NFL needs a spring time minor league system in the United States. It would help quarterback development while also giving more coaching gigs available. Not to mention fill scheduling time on NFL Network.

Arena League?

ChiefsCountry · 01-20-2013, 07:26 PM

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Arena League?

No a legit 11 man league sort of what NFL Europe was but in mid-sized cities in the US. XFL and UFL have proved that some of those cities can draw crowds, if you have the NFL backing it - it would be successful IMO.

chiefzilla1501 · 01-20-2013, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

No a legit 11 man league sort of what NFL Europe was but in mid-sized cities in the US. XFL and UFL have proved that some of those cities can draw crowds, if you have the NFL backing it - it would be successful IMO.

I'd be interested in this too. I was thinking the same about NFL Europe, but the problem is, they took it too seriously. Don't market this as a big name league with a bunch of superstars. Create a small stadium, make it a fun spring/summer stadium with drinks (like they do with minor league games), and put it in markets that would love a football presence. Omaha, Des Moines, OKC... lots of markets that would probably embrace a minor league team.

Thatguy · 01-20-2013, 07:56 PM

I used to think it was a dated rule until recently. J.C Person made a pretty good argument as to why it is still needed. He said (paraphrasing) its not that owners refuse to hire minority candidates. He said its an old boy network were they keep things within their inner circle, not purposely, just that they tend to trust people they know, and that inner circle just happens to be mostly white guys. He said its still needed so we have a more diverse pool of candidates.

Ebolapox · 01-20-2013, 08:24 PM

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I believe there are several teams who have mentioned that they hired a black coach they didn't have on their radar because of the Rooney Rule. Dungy is the big name that immediately comes to mind.

In my opinion... if you're a team that consistently conducts this Rooney Rule interview as lip service, then they're idiotic. Frankly, I've seen Buffalo treat the rule this way, and it's a big reason why that team is such a joke.

you're ****ing stupid. it was mike tomlin. the rooney rule wasn't even instituted when dungy got the job in tampa bay

Chiefaholic · 01-20-2013, 08:39 PM

I could care less about the rule. Interview as many candidates as possible, then hire the best possible HC to turn your franchise around and start winning again. The same rule is applied from the GM to the long snapper, I don't care what the color of their skin is.

chiefzilla1501 · 01-20-2013, 08:58 PM

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you're ****ing stupid. it was mike tomlin. the rooney rule wasn't even instituted when dungy got the job in tampa bay

You're right, I got my facts mixed up. Lovie Smith was widely believed to have benefited from the rule. Dungy was hired by Rooney as the NFL's first black coordinator. Dungy, though, is the best case to show the struggle. He was a very qualified candidate, but it took him years and years to even get a sniff of a head coaching job.

chiefzilla1501 · 01-20-2013, 09:00 PM

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I could care less about the rule. Interview as many candidates as possible, then hire the best possible HC to turn your franchise around and start winning again. The same rule is applied from the GM to the long snapper, I don't care what the color of their skin is.

While I would agree, that's not how it works. Players are selected by talent. Coaches and front office staff more often than not are pulled from personal networks. Which means that very often, good smart people (black and white) are overlooked so the owner can work with his buddies

Cmd'r&Chief · 01-20-2013, 09:05 PM

Let it go already

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